Kayteg1
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ticki2 wrote:Buzzcut 1 , I understand what and why you are doing , makes sense . My question is , what is the upper limit gvw you can register your f350 if you are willing to pay the fee ? Could you go to 20 or 30k .
Don't know if you've got it, but California seems to be unique where you have to declare GCVW and pay the "weight fee" accordingly.
They give you declared weight stickers in big size, that need to be attached on truck sides.
I believe that is what Buzzcut meant
Don't think any state will register your truck higher than factory GVW without some kind of technical procedure.
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Reality Check
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'16 F550 CC, 4x4 with Link Ultraride air suspension, '18 AF 1150. Just so we can play with our snowmobiles, dirt bikes and fishing boat. And new 20' tag along...kayaks, bikes, mc's and extra water and food!!
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Bedlam wrote: If you were to be weighed over your paid amount, you would be fined.
I think the key word here is "could". Extremely unlikely for an RV, since in most jurisdictions, RV's are exempt from scales and weight enforcement.
ticki2 wrote: Is there no limit to what you can register the GVWR . Can a 3500 series truck be registered for 20000 Gvw ?
There is no limit; the states would gladly take your money. Understand folks, that tonnage is a tax; it's not about safety. They are two different beasts. You can be legally under weight (talking trucks here, not the toys we play talk about on this forum) and still be 'overweight' if one didn't buy enough tonnage. i.e. running at 54k and you only paid for 50k, yet your vehicles can legally carry (axle config) 80k. You're overweight but not unsafe.
Kayteg1 wrote:Don't think any state will register your truck higher than factory GVW without some kind of technical procedure.
Same response as above; the state will take your money, but it doesn't mean you can drive around that heavy. i.e. I register our 550's at 34k, but they are actually only capable of 33k, and only with a trailer. The state doesn't care if you have a trailer, or ever tow one. I could register it for 60k, but I still can't go over the capacities of the vehicles.
I don't pay tonnage on the RV's. They're marked as personal.
Interesting thread for sure, and alot of ado about nothing and 'what ifs'. A LEO career behind me, and still involved in CDL driving and drivers, and to this day, I haven't seen nor witnessed a single RV being pulled/cited/arrested/sued because they had an accident and were found to overweight. Most TC's are over. Period. Skip the constant arguments about tires, axles and everything else, the brakes are maxed out. But the reality is, it works for most and most slide by and keep going. The odds are...in your favor.
The OP mentions that he is greatly concerned about liability. Has a friend who's an attorney, and a really good one too. Welcome to the club. Got a couple of them in my ring, worked with dozens, some good, some sucky, some rather prominent. First thing to learn; the law is black and white and open to interpretation of intent. OP mentions later that being a 'little' overweight doesn't bother him. What's a little? and why does 'x' amount seem ok? Join the club of reality.
The weight police on here think that whatever number is posted....here, there, anywhere.. is the absolute. Others find what works for them and what they're comfortable with. Others have pushed the limits, gotten away with it and tout it as proof. No lawyer, arm chair forum poster or LEO is going to give you the perfect, absolute, correct answer.
Searching and listening is ok; but don't beat yourself up thinking you're going to get 'the' answer and be good. That's not realistic. What are YOU comfortable with? If having an accident and the fact that you were 50 pounds overweight and maybe it was a contributing factor is something you can't live with, then buy a bigger truck or stay in a hotel. But I suspect you’ll realize that isn’t very realistic and join the ranks of the rest. Best wishes for good camping ahead.
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Jknight611
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I was a professional pilot back in my working career. On a aircraft GW is identified by the manufacturer, just as a truck manufacturer publishes the GW. For all I know it may be because of the door knobs, not my authority to randomly decide that I know better than the guys that designed it. I checked in with a neighbor that is a lawyer, and his response was it was a topic he would explore in the event of a accident........and if enough assets were available.
Pays ya money, takes ya chance. I have worked too hard for this to be a question, and I am sure you have too.
A truck camper at the end of the day is a discretionary purchase, otherwise known as a toy.
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Agreed jknight. I've worked too hard and saved too diligently to put it at risk, even if the risk is small. The fact is that people get sued all the time when they cause accidents with injuries. Might be a small risk that being overloaded makes things any worse than they already were, but I can tell you that every little saving grace you can point to would matter.
Anyway, not here to grind that axe. I asked my question, got good answers, and they helped reinforce a safe decision. I don't begrudge anyone who wants to exceed specs. Remember that I'm only going to be driving my TC up curvy, snowy, icy, windy mountain roads. I don't feel like that leaves me as much leeway to push the limits compared to others. If I was on flat dry pavement, I would have gotten the AF and called it a day with the plausible deniability of the weight sticker and manufacturer literature.
As it stands, I'll be well under specs even when fully loaded. I just ordered Nokian lt2 studs (125 load rated), and also planning on stable loads as a baseline, and then see how things feel from there.
2017 F-350, CC/LB/SRW
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Bedlam
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If you are going to be a stickler for weight, take a look at your OEM rim ratings. I went to 19.5's because the stock rims were rated for close to what the stock tires can carry.
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I'll get a loaded axle weight today. With a wet weight well under 3000lbs and an unloaded rear axle weight of 3400lb, with passengers, I think we'll be well within specs, but like you said earlier, if I end up wanting to tow something, wheels and tires would be much more important.
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Camper8251
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So, I would assume that you are camping out to go skiing / boarding out there in the winter...
I have an AF811 and have been camping many a winter at the slopes in Washington and BC. Its a four season camper but make no mistake if you are burning LP you are going to use a lot. On the hill if they have plugins you should get a supplemental Electric heat system. While they claim to be four seasons it can get mighty cold in the camper, and the LP doesn't flow as good.
I would also recommend insulating the windows and putting a switch on the basement fan to keep it running 24x7 to keep the heat circulating thru the "heated" basement.
I also added an electric mattress pad and insulation under the mattress.
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Toyo M608z's 225/70R19.5 14 plys rated at 3970
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Correct, my kid is doing ski team sat/sun all winter and there is no on-mountain lodging.
We are ready to burn the LP for sure. Here and elsewhere, I've heard we'll be burning a lot less with a fiberglass non-slide. Those S5 acrylic windows shouldn't need separate insulation best I can tell. But I should have real world feedback by next weekend. Bought it today and will be installed on Wednesday.
Northern Lite 9-6 special edition with U-dinette and wireless rearview camera. Full dealer prep, batteries, LP, hoses, cords, etc, torklift stable loads, tie downs, fast guns, and bed mat installed and out the door for 36k even. Good deal? Not too late to change my mind at this point, but it seems like a good deal best I can tell.
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Kayteg1
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It is nice to have money for new one.
Although I bought my 2 campers in TLC condition, I paid less 1/5 of that for each of them.
Enjoy your new toy.
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