dmatt
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I agree. We had a pop up and TT and noticed the lack of quality. Now looking at expensive class A, it's surprising to see the same lack of quality on many brands, with a higher price tag!!
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Monkeyman_and_Lady
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dmatt wrote:
Good to know! Question: Are you happy with the gas V10? Did you have to do any mods to it for handling, etc? Thanks
Nope, no mods. Handles fine. As long as you're not expecting it to drive like a Porsche. I have driven a number of trucks when I was a much younger person and I had a feeling what I was going to be dealing with, but it's very smooth and easier to drive than my Truck/Trailer combo was.
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Doug156
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I had a Coachmen motorhome for 10 years. I traded "up" to a Newmar Bay Sport. What a mistake. In 4 years this Newmar has cost me three times the amount I put into the Coachmen in 10 years.
Generator "board" needed to be replaced at 14 months, windshield shade died at 2 years ... awning dry rotted at 13 months, levelers needed repair at 13 months, all exterior storage compartment doors de-laminating after three years, can't count the amount of times the shower door handle falls off, 4 times cabanet doors dislocated from the hinges, and I could write a book about the problems with the Ford engine computer.
We no longer look forward to going out as we wonder what will break next. And yes, I am going to trade this POS in on a Coachmen
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tropical36
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Doug156 wrote:I had a Coachmen motorhome for 10 years. I traded "up" to a Newmar Bay Sport. What a mistake. In 4 years this Newmar has cost me three times the amount I put into the Coachmen in 10 years.
Generator "board" needed to be replaced at 14 months, windshield shade died at 2 years ... awning dry rotted at 13 months, levelers needed repair at 13 months, all exterior storage compartment doors de-laminating after three years, can't count the amount of times the shower door handle falls off, 4 times cabanet doors dislocated from the hinges, and I could write a book about the problems with the Ford engine computer.
We no longer look forward to going out as we wonder what will break next. And yes, I am going to trade this POS in on a Coachmen
Better be careful with that, as Coachman might not be the coach it used to be.
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GHOST1750
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tropical36 wrote:azdryheat wrote:Yes, Newmar is above Winnebago and all the others.
I agree that Newmar makes a nice coach, but when you say....above all the others....what exactly do you mean by that?
Above all ohers.
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Smitty77
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I'll share that Newmar's Dutch Star and Mountain Aire of the 2002-2006 era were on our short list of RV's when we were shopping. This was in 200-2010 timeframe. They were, and are, well built coaches with good content, and for reasonable price points in that era's still post economic tumble markets.
Newmar, American Coach, Monaco, Country Coach, Travel Supreme, Wanderlodge, Alpine, Beaver, Foretravel (And probably some that I've forgotten.) - all had models that provided upper mid to higher end chassis and content and constructed coaches.
Today? I've been an Arm Chair watcher - as I'm no longer a buyer![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile") ! But, IMO:
Newmar, Foretravel, Entegra, American Coach - remain at the upper side to higher end combo of chassis and content in new coaches.
(OK. So sure Newel, Prevost Based, and perhaps some other's not as prevalent (Or now gone.) National, Triple E, Fleetwood (Thinking Providence, Revolution.), Winnebago (Thinking Ultimate Freedom, and another whose name escapes me), Rexhall. Toss in some Tiffen's Allegro Bus and Zephyr's too... And agin, I'm sure other's that I have forgotten!!! All, had good quality coaches for the price point....
But what matter's. Especially in used coaches. Is:
-Coach layout? Do we like it, would we enjoy it
-Mechanical condition? Has it been maintained well
-Good bones? Did it have a better chassis/engine combo, as well as other components?
-Quality of materials used for the 'soft stuff' of RV'ing. Carpets, Cabinets, Furniture, Appliances, Counters, Non carpet flooring quality. Etc., etc.
So, ramblings complete for now. And I can assure you not a complete thought in the ramblings? Monaco, Beaver, Holiday Rambler, Alpha, Safari, and I'm sure others.. Newmar quality? Well, they're accompany that stands behind their products. (How many remember the 3 year Newmar warranties - to set themselves above the rest?). Good designs, good components, good customization for new buyer's too.
Newmar, IMO, remains as a unique provider of Gas Class A's, and from entry to top end level's of DP's. I wish them ongoing good fortunes!
Smitty
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tropical36
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GHOST1750 wrote:tropical36 wrote:azdryheat wrote:Yes, Newmar is above Winnebago and all the others.
I agree that Newmar makes a nice coach, but when you say....above all the others....what exactly do you mean by that?
Above all ohers.
And all the while here, Prevost, Newell, Foretravel and numerous other coach owners, thought they really had a quality built machine! What a let down, eh?.... ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/eek.gif "eek")
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huntdooly
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Mile High wrote:PastorCharlie wrote:Newmars are built by Amish craftsmen.. Our 38' Newmar stays comfortably cool/warm with only the dash A/C or dash heater running while traveling throughout the USA. Very well insulated. All the cabinets are as top quality as in any home. Very quiet and smooth ride. The 3 slides are electric and all have locking devises when closed. The 2 heat pumps keep it very warm/cool in all weather conditions with its 7' ceilings. Very seldom have to run furnace. All bays open from side to side and are heated. The large bay carries the 22.5 spare and has enough room for 3-4 more. Hopefully different Amish Craftsman than the ones in Elkhart Indiana as claimed by every trailer manufacturer
I was thinking the same!! LOL!!
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JoeH
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huntdooly wrote:Mile High wrote:PastorCharlie wrote:Newmars are built by Amish craftsmen.. Our 38' Newmar stays comfortably cool/warm with only the dash A/C or dash heater running while traveling throughout the USA. Very well insulated. All the cabinets are as top quality as in any home. Very quiet and smooth ride. The 3 slides are electric and all have locking devises when closed. The 2 heat pumps keep it very warm/cool in all weather conditions with its 7' ceilings. Very seldom have to run furnace. All bays open from side to side and are heated. The large bay carries the 22.5 spare and has enough room for 3-4 more. Hopefully different Amish Craftsman than the ones in Elkhart Indiana as claimed by every trailer manufacturer
I was thinking the same!! LOL!!
They are workers/farmers that are in a big hurry to leave at about 2:00 pm to go work on their farms. The list of issues I've had with my Newmar fills pages. As I speak, it's in the shop again. Luckily I have an extended service plan so only $100 out of pocket. Other coaches I've had were relatively trouble free in comparison .
Joe
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