dmatt
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Thanks everyone. We will be checking out for plans extensively at the up coming RV show in October. I think we will focus mainly on these three companies and go from there.
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fortytwo wrote:
The engineers and management at Winnebago mostly have zero experience as RV'ers. It shows!
You know it's strange you say that, because at the the 60th anniversary rally this year (yes 60 years - 52 building motorhomes) I was impressed to see that Winnebago puts all of the employees helping with the rally in motorhomes on the grounds for the duration of the rally and the preparation the week prior, and the owners have had their own campsite near the amusement park on the rally grounds for over 40 years where they park their motorhome. I had the electrical design engineer manager and an employee from the assembly line actually come in our coach for a soda to look at the upgrade I did on the surge suppression because I felt theirs was inadequate. They did this as part of an ongoing program they do to listen to real user issues with the products. Their goal was to hear back from at least 75% of the 900 units while at the rally. Not saying the Engineers and managers are all RVers, but they are certainly not ignorant to the concept ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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irishtom29
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Newmars gassers are nice but the Tiffin gassers have nicer cabinetry—solid wood for all Tiffins and vinyl wrap on many Newmars. Newmar gassers often use scrap wall panel for drawer bottoms, Tiffin uses wood. Tiffins are often on a longer wheelbase and heavier chassis for a given length. Canyon Star is closest to Tiffin in quality of cabinets and in use of heavier chassis—all Canyon Stars are on the 26K chassis. Only the Canyon Star has a flush stove cover. On the other hand Newmar has hung walls if you dig that and some have available double pane windows—all Tiffin gassers are single pane.
IMO Winnebago gassers don’t come close to either Newmar or Tiffin when it comes to bones.
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dmatt
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Interesting, thanks. What is the advantages/disadvantages of hung walls?
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2gypsies
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dmatt wrote:Interesting, thanks. What is the advantages/disadvantages of hung walls?
No delamination
Here's a video on Newmar's walls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpxOdMmuerg
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RLS7201
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cruz-in wrote:"1st consideration is the wheelbase to length ratio. If it's less than 55% it won't handle well - period, and can't be made to."
Be careful of absolute statements like this....
We own a Monaco Vesta. It is a full air bagged, air braked, front engine diesel. it was designed and tested in a wind tunnel. It is an extremely good driving MH (read the reviews) and its ratio is 54%.
And I'm going to second cruz-in's statement.
My ol Bounder has a wheel base to over hang ratio of 49% (190" wheel base 13' overhang).
It drives very well with only an addition of a front panhard bar.
That whole ratio thing is just more internet rhetoric.
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azdryheat wrote:Yes, Newmar is above Winnebago and all the others.
I agree that Newmar makes a nice coach, but when you say....above all the others....what exactly do you mean by that?
"We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey."
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irishtom29
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RLS7201 wrote:
My ol Bounder has a wheel base to over hang ratio of 49% (190" wheel base 13' overhang).
It drives very well with only an addition of a front panhard bar.
That whole ratio thing is just more internet rhetoric.
Richard
Maybe if it had longer wheelbase it would drive better. I don’t think a longer wheelbase could be bad.
In any event I think that long overhang looks like Hell.
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dmatt
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That's a great video, very informative. Thanks!!
It seems that only Newmar and Entegra still use this method. I'm sure cost and the longer build time have led to the change.
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dmatt
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One thing I have noticed in my research is that Newmar uses a Brite Tek roof on the smaller gas coaches instead of the one piece fiberglass. It is an option on the larger Canyon Star but the shortest one is 35'.
Anyone know of any issues with this type of roof? I assume a one piece fiberglass is preferable.
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