CA Traveler
The Western States
Senior Member
Joined: 01/03/2004
View Profile
 Offline
|
Keep in mind that while the Genie 2 can be anywhere in the RV it is 11"Hx6x6 and must be mounted vertical. It also needs adequate cooling and AC power (thinking boondocking). And it must have a coax from the dish, clients can have a coax or wireless.
I have my HR44 (HD, not 4K) mounted vertical in the back of a cabinet. The door is cracked 1/2" for air ventilation. The remote is RF and can be used anywhere in the rig. It also has IR for my IR TV. The TV IR remote is required for OTA, DVDs etc. If you are not aware RF means line of sight is not needed, can be in a different room.
The HR44 has a brick for power and a second brick is used for the dish. Mine are located in an adjacent area but they do of course produce some heat.
I chose the RF Mogul Eagle because:
1. The dish has only motors and gears with all electronics inside.
2. The GPS antenna and LNBs are on the dish.
3. Start to finish the DTV lock time is 3.5 minutes.
4. I can have parts shipped to me for field service, no need to remove and ship a failed dish to them like Winegard.
5 For about $300+ a kit to convert to Dish is available. The LNB and arm are changed and new firmware. The controller has a common card slot for the flash drive. Plug it in and reboot.
Many are satisfied with their Winegard dish.
All of these factors and more should be considered with a RV installation.
2009 Holiday Rambler 42' Scepter with ISL 400 Cummins
750 Watts Solar Morningstar MPPT 60 Controller
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Bob
|
CA Traveler
The Western States
Senior Member
Joined: 01/03/2004
View Profile
Offline
|
RF Mogul Eagle DTV search operation:
1. Power on button
2. 30 seconds to acquire GPS, no delay if power was previously turned on.
3. Maximum elevation
4. Set skew based on the GPS
5. Set elevation based on the GPS
6. Azimuth rotation, no GPS for this, finds sats on first rotation.
7. Optimize signal for the 3 sats
Trees etc can require longer and/or incomplete success.
Normal time 30 sec + 3 minutes.
|
Toolguy5
Columbia Station, Ohio
Senior Member
Joined: 09/08/2003
View Profile
Offline
|
We have the Genie as well.
I had Direct TV send me a H24 receiver to use with my Winegard Carry out dish. Even though the H24 is HD receiver it works with the winegard but only in SD.
Dan & Patty
Miss Pickles the Pomeranian Princess Rainbow Bridge 8/8/2023
2020 GMC 3500 Sierra Denali 6.6 Duramax / Allison tranny
2021 Jayco Eagle 319MLOK
BWRVK 3710 companion
Maddy the Pampered Pom @ Rainbow Bridge 12-3-2013
|
jodeb720
Denver
Senior Member
Joined: 11/19/2010
View Profile
Offline
|
Susie,
I did exactly what you want to do.
I had the same receiver, a portable standard definition dis(18" round)
I built my own collaspable tripod out of 1-14" pvc pipe and generally had it working in about 10 minutes or so.
What I got was Standard Definition from Directv.
That being said, Directv is supposed to stop broadcasting in standard definition in April of 2019.
I had a high definition dish and all the other stuff you need for HD but it took up too much space in my trailer.
That being said, I just recently switched to Dish after being with Directv for 15 years.
Channel for channel I'm saving 600 a year (50.00 a month) plus what I didn't expect was the other technology that Directv doesn't have.
If you want more info please feel free to PM me.
Josh
|
Bill.Satellite
Full-timer
Senior Member
Joined: 12/25/2012
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
|
Other than more recording channels on the Hopper, what other technology does Dish have that DirecTV does not? You would need to compare a Hopper 3 to the new Genie 2 or similar receivers/antennas. Be sure to include how using having to select Eastern Arc or Western Arc satellites (requiring 2 different LNB's) is better than only having 1 centrally located set of satellites.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?
|
|
|
JohnG3
Morro Bay, California, USA
Senior Member
Joined: 07/26/2004
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
I use the Dish for my RV iPhone app to find the satellites. If I remember correctly it was a whopping $5 one time cost.
John and Elaine. Furry ones, Bubba, Buddy, Barney and Miss Chevious
2017 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40 SP
Know guns, know safety, know peace. No guns, no safety, no peace.
|
Big Katuna
Deland, FL
Senior Member
Joined: 12/27/2003
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
Bill.Satellite wrote:Other than more recording channels on the Hopper, what other technology does Dish have that DirecTV does not? You would need to compare a Hopper 3 to the new Genie 2 or similar receivers/antennas. Be sure to include how using having to select Eastern Arc or Western Arc satellites (requiring 2 different LNB's) is better than only having 1 centrally located set of satellites.
Resetting your box and changing locals via your app without calling tech support is nice.
Choosing between east or west has meant getting a signal when trees or hills were in the way..
DISH has a Siri like remote now. Does DTV.? I Haven’t used one.
DISH Hopper mates with Alexa. Does DTV? I don’t know.
If you use a 211, there is built in firmware that sets up a auto carryout with HD.
My Kharma ran over my Dogma.
|
Bill.Satellite
Full-timer
Senior Member
Joined: 12/25/2012
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
|
Let's just say you have an interesting take on improved technology. E/W requires 2 separate antenna/LNB setups so while it's nice to have that option in the trees, it requires additional hardware and setup time. The locals thing only works if you have a mobile account. The 211/Wally series receivers only do auto setup if you buy an antenna designed specifically for Dish use ONLY limiting your future options.
It's all about choices (not necessarily technology). Your choices appear to be exactly right for you.
|
mikestock
Vestavia Hills, AL, USA
Senior Member
Joined: 12/01/2002
View Profile
|
The cheapest way to take DirecTV HD on the road is to get a Slimline 3, a tripod to hold it and learn to set it up. I did it this way for years before installing an automatic Winegard on the roof. I still carry a portable setup when I expect to be in a place where trees could be a problem.
For the portable setup,I found that I have the best luck using a legacy LNB, working with a cheap, self powered, meter to find the satellites and then swap over to a SWM, LNB for viewing.
|
Bill.Satellite
Full-timer
Senior Member
Joined: 12/25/2012
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
|
mikestock wrote:The cheapest way to take DirecTV HD on the road is to get a Slimline 3, a tripod to hold it and learn to set it up. I did it this way for years before installing an automatic Winegard on the roof. I still carry a portable setup when I expect to be in a place where trees could be a problem.
For the portable setup,I found that I have the best luck using a legacy LNB, working with a cheap, self powered, meter to find the satellites and then swap over to a SWM, LNB for viewing.
X2. Not for everyone but pretty easy with a bit of practice.
|
|
|
