docsbrown
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we are downsizing from a diesel pusher to a class C.
We had a tiffin before current one and the Wayfarer caught our attention, but when studying it a bit the 702 lbs carrying capacity killed it for us.
so we are back on the drawing board, we like the View, and we know is the older model built on this chassis, but there are so many now.
We were at the TAmpa show yesterday and saw the new Synergy made from Thor, and the Melbourne Prestige made from Jayco.
when we shopped class A diesel pushers we avoided these two brands for not stellar reputation, does that apply also for their class C?
we also liked the little class A Via, but cant have it with the loft bed, and we need some kind of bed upfront.
Give me your opinion please, it is really valued.
Thanks
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MDKMDK
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We're going 2018 Navion. Decent OCCC for a chassis that often gets loaded to the stops by the upfitters, and years of experience building them (View/Navion have been around for a while), standard equipment, layout options, leading edge technology, and parts availability, and hopefully service going forward, were some of the reasons.
Mike. Comments are anecdotal or personal opinions, and worth what you paid for them.
2018 (2017 Sprinter Cab Chassis) Navion24V + 2016 Wrangler JKU (sold @ ????)
2016 Sunstar 26HE, V10, 3V, 6 Speed (sold @ 4600 miles)
2002 Roadtrek C190P (sold @ 315,000kms)
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neschultz
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We had a 2014 ViaP without the loft bed and the sofa had a Queen size air mattress that was comfortable.
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midnightsadie
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look at leisurevans.com. well built and nice we,ve had ours for 10yrs now and its great. no problem with the MB diesel engine.
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hpdrver
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We have a 2017 Via 25P without a loft bed but a sofa upfront that folds out to a queen size bed. We also have 1220 OCCC on this coach.
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happynow
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We own a 2015 Thor Siesta Sprinter 24ST Model.We love our rig, have had very few issues, none after purchase requiring Thor warranty work. We have had a very good experience.
With that said:
We took time going over our rig after we decided it was the one for us. Created a list of items to be completed by the dealer BEFORE we took delivery. We took photo's and videotaped as needed. All of the items were minor fit and finish (except for a small exterior paint chip) and addressed. We took 2 extended pre-purchase rides.
I have heard both good and horror stories about Thor products. After reading as much information as I could get my hands on for the first 2 years, I believe all brands have quality control and finish issues. A few higher $ end companies have few issues. Most of the mass producers have issues,some more than others.
DH & I attended many RV shows from 2011-2014. At most shows, I was suprised to see poor quality in better known brands.
Good luck with whatever you choose. Use the knowledge you've earned from your current rig, it should serve you well.
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pianotuna
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docsbrown,
This is what I would love to own.
http://www.lazydaze.com/
![[image]](http://www.lazydaze.com/images/homepageimage.jpg)
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.
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ron.dittmer
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Thor and Jayco are still lower-end brands based on everything I read on forums. The lower price translates to more issues of which new owners deal with. That old saying applies, you get what you pay for.
The Tiffin Wayfarer sure looks interesting. Too bad it is so heavy. A full-length slide out with a Murphy bed, or two slide outs, all add significant weight. A typical slide out adds around 600 pounds. I can see how it gets down to 700 pounds for you and whatever you bring on-board. Their website does not break the specs down per model leaving me to wonder if the twin bed model 24TW with one small slide-out could double that ridiculous 700 pound limit.
Are you dead set on the Sprinter chassis? There are many interesting shorter class B+ motor homes built on the Ford E350. You do seem to be diesel-seasoned, maybe staying away from gasoline models. But in-case you are curious, here are some considerations to thing about.
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Advantages Of The Ford E350 with V10 Engine, Over The Sprinter Diesel
- Given identical motor homes both brand and model, the Ford is around $13,000 MSRP cheaper
- The Ford V10 engine has 50% more horse power and torque
- The Ford E350 chassis handles 1430 pounds more weight.
- The E350 is able to tow a heavier load.
- The E350 rear axle is significantly wider which translates to better stability.
- In most places traveled, gasoline costs less than diesel fuel
- The Sprinter diesel has limited mechanical service shops around North America
- The Sprinter diesel is typically outfitted with a propane generator. Propane is a critical fuel for RV operations, and generally needs to be rationed when dry camping.
- This Next Point Is Debatable But Still Worth Noting....The V6 Sprinter diesel engine is not allowed to idle for extended periods. This limitation is detrimental when you need a/c but there are generator restrictions, you are low on propane, or you have a mechanical failure with the generator or roof a/c. The Ford offers a great backup system. The V10 can safely idle for hours on end with 55 gallons of fuel to support it, heating, cooling, and battery charging, all valuable if you have a baby, pets, or health/respiratory issues.
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MDKMDK
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I would say that, based purely on the title of this thread, the OP wants a diesel chassis, specifically the MB Sprinter cab cutaway chassis which sits underneath many class C coaches, and that serves as the "van" in many other class B motorhomes. I suspect the Ford E350/E450 is not an option, however I would defer to the OP on that count.
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lizzie
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We have a 2015 Villagio built by Renagade. We chose it because it has twin beds in the back. It is a beautiful rig and we are very pleased with it. lizzie
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