Bill.Satellite
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1 post, 1 response. All 6 days ago. End of discussion.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?
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gutfelt
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Bill.Satellite wrote:1 post, 1 response. All 6 days ago. End of discussion.
That's your opinion and of course like others here everyone is entitled to their own
I think theres been many good responses that address or attempt to address the OP concerns
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Mr.Mark
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gutfelt wrote:Bill.Satellite wrote:1 post, 1 response. All 6 days ago. End of discussion.
That's your opinion and of course like others here everyone is entitled to their own
I think theres been many good responses that address or attempt to address the OP concerns
Gut, you are new here, us old-timers have seen a lot, read a lot, have seen a lot of one-time posters.... Bill is not off base here.
Bill has been on for almost 1,800 days, I've been on over 4,000 days.....
You have been on 7 days. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
Safe travels,
MM.
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2021.5 Pleasure Way Plateau FL Class-B on the Sprinter Chassis
2018 Mini Cooper Hardtop Coupe, 2 dr., 6-speed manual
(SOLD) 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach, 45 ft, 500 hp Volvo
(SOLD) 2008 Monaco Dynasty, 42 ft, 425 hp Cummins
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gutfelt
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as said my opinion is there have been several on topic to the point posts for the Op to consider not just one as others opine and its not up to me you or others to decide "" end of discussion" also to note years of posting vereses a few days does not make one smarter or more full of wisdom as you seem to imply
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Mr.Mark
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Gut, we have graduated 'Good Sams' college, have our master's and working towards our doctorates, you are a kindergartener. Keep your nose clean and you will earn your badges and respect, until then, finish your happy meal and drink your milk. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
MM.
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ArchHoagland
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Amen brother, Amen.
2004 Monaco La Palma 36DBD
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BigRabbitMan
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I am probably the only one on this forum that has driven THE SAME COACH with both gas and diesel engines. My coach originally had a Chrysler 440 and a Loadflte 3 speed tranny. I upgraded the gas engine from a carb to Edelbrock MPI fuel injection. I upgraded the 3 tranny to a 4 spd Allison 545. My "off the line" improved greatly as the technology advanced the basic engines performance and the lower first gear got it to the wheels.
But I wanted more! So I removed the 440 and put in a Duramax 6.6L turbo diesel with a 6 speed Allison. The first 4 gears in the 6 spd are the same as the 4 gears in 545.
So what was the difference? With the gas engine when I switched trannys with the better gearing at the lower end, it leaped off the line much better than with the 3 spd (2nd and 3rd were the same as 3rd and 4th). Now since a diesel has its power at lower rpm, I needed those other two gears to keep my rpms down at highway speeds.
Bottom line, for the first 30 ft the improved gas engine MAY have beat the diesel engine (primarily due to turbo lag), but beyond that the diesel runs away from what the SAME coach did with the "improved" gas engine.
An added bonus is because the coach stayed the same length and almost the same weight, I have a good fuel mileage comparison when everything else stays the same. The difference: with gas I got 7.5 mpg on average, with diesel over 25,000 miles I have gotten 14.2 mpg.
And its more fun to drive!
BigRabbitMan
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76 FMC #1046, Gas Pusher became a Diesel Pusher
Discussion thread on this site
"You're never too old to learn something stupid."
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Mr.Mark
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BigRabbitMan,
A fellow on the Prevost site bought a '57 Flxible bus that had been retrofitted with a Cummins/Allison set up (rear engine). He bought it that way and it's the coolest bus as it has been completely renovated. It's the talk of the RV park where ever he takes it. Then, he added a '14 Prevost to the stable.
Safe travels,
MM.
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et2
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Most people aren't buying motor homes for there acceleration. They're designed and then buildt to move those designed specifications. Most higher powered DP are moving bigger and heavier mass. You won't find gas engines doing that for a good reason.
Most gas engines are on smaller less heavier MH's, as the weight goes up there effectiveness goes way down. A diesel engine will most likely last way longer than most gas engines in a MH, get better gas mileage, and you can actually talk to your family while traveling in your rig, compared to a gas engine MH.
With a gasser - learning other forms of communication while traveling would be Good advice.
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fagnaml
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My 2007, 39 foot Damon Astoria Class A diesel pusher is slow to accelerate from a "dead stop" until the turbo booster "spins up". Once the turbo has kicked-in, the acceleration is not too bad for a 25,000 pound vehicle. A vehicle that size is not "spunky" compared to a 1/2 ton Silverado.
Mike & Cindy
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