qtla9111
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Ed White, you're fighting an uphill battle. However, your battle seems much easier to win than mine.
Keep up the fight. It appears you know your business well and the majority have faith in what you do. Good on ya!
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I just got back from Kino Bay in the State of Sonora. Crossed the border in Nogales to Hermosillo then West to Kino. I stopped at numerous Pemex stations along the way including Santa Ana, Benjamin Hill as well as in Hermosillo. No attendants had any knowledge about ULSD or baja azufre. When my tank was about half empty I did fill up in Kino, that was enough to get me back to Nogales on the way back.
I am currently having a custom 65 gallon tank made so that future trips to Kino are less stressful.
I have a 2017 F-250 Super Duty, the additional tank will give me a range of approximately 1350 miles. I am hopeful Mexico gets its act together in 2018.
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Tequila
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Having run several caravans through Mexico many with post 2007 trucks, I tend to trust Ed's info. I have one on my current trip (complete mexico circuit)and we have used stations on the list he provided me 90% of the time. No issues
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Ed White
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Things are beginning to happen quickly on the diesel fuel front in Mexico. Just yesterday, Dec 6/17, Exxon sent it's first shipment of ULSD from the USA to it's storage facility in San Luis Potosi, presumably for distribution to new Exxon stations in that part of Mexico. And Chevron has now opened a newly converted Pemex in La Paz on the Southern Baja, probably not yet stocked with ULSD but only a matter of time until Chevron establishes storage in that area.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-12-06/exxon-jumping-in-to-mexico-s-fuel-market-with-first-u-s-cargo
Rumors are flying in the Southern Baja that ULSD is now being delivered to Pemex stations, so I just sent a diesel fuel sample from Los Barriles to a lab in the USA for analysis - should have the results by mid-December. It's clear that the move to ULSD in Mexico is reaching critical mass - I don't think there's any doubt at this stage that the whole country will have ULSD by the end of 2018, consistent with the directions of the Federal Govt.
One area definitely stiil receiving Mexican LSD is Melaque/Barra de Navidad. Problems are being reported for late model Duramax trucks.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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A challenge is going to be supply to Oaxaca, Guerrero, and Chiapas. The Salina Cruz refinacion supplies this area, and their tankers sail from there up the Pacific coast as far as Guaymas and El Sauzal near Ensenada BC. There are no piplines that can feed ULSD to the refinery from Villahermosa, the nearest east coast refinaccion. Pipeline thieves operating in the Puebla, Tehuacan area really shut that system into a corner.
The barge operation from Topolobampo to Pichilingue is private, not Pemex. These folks have had a scumbag reputation all the way back to the 1960's. Filthy compartments, water, and cross fuel contamination. I hope gobernacion takes a hard look at these folks, soon.
I would be surprised if Pemex changed its "ironclad" guarantee NO GASOLINERA IN MEXICO WILL BE ALLOWED TO POST NOTIFICATION OF UBA UNTIL EVERY LAST STATION IN MEXICO HAS IT. The southern states are a burr under Pemex's saddle.
I passed through a restaurant for truckers "El Traylero" just this morning (superb spicy huevos con chorizo) and saw a faded bulletin board sign (translated) Final gasolinera con comistible diesel Guerrero Negro BCS.
Apparently the last gasolinera southbound is right at the 28 paralelo the eagle monument at the state line. Mexican truckers do not like UBA for older rigs. Not my part to ask why.
But it could make a trucker a source for higher accuracy than sheer guesswork for determining which stations have UBA.
Personally I hope it becomes available everywhere soon.
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moisheh
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Tesoro/Arco has started to truck American ULSD to at least 2 stations in Baja. I bet we will see them supply more stations in the near future. All of their gasoline at these stations are produced at USA refineries.
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Baja California, the northern of the two states has not sold one drop of Mexican refined comistible for 16-years. Diesel Marina, is the sole exception. The 23,000 ton tanker plying the sea between Salina Cruz and El Sauzal, drops diesel marina at Ensenada then continues on to drop the majority of it's fuel at the Rosarito offshore platform for use at the CFE generating plant and at the seawater distillery. There, it accepts refined in USA Premium gasolina and takes it to various fuel depots all the way down the Mexican coast. Acapulco, Lazaro Cardenas, and Mazatlan all see Diesel Marina and No 6 fuel oil deliveries. Then return trips with drop offs of USA refined UBA premium.
HERE'S SOME CURRENT FUEL NEWS FOR THE BAJIO. A cut n paste...
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Mexico News Daily | Thursday, December 7, 2017
Eight gas stations in the west-central Bajío region are the first in Mexico to sell fuel that doesn’t come from the state oil company, Pemex.
The newly-opened Mobil stations are selling gasoline and diesel refined and distributed by Texas-based oil and gas corporation ExxonMobil, the world’s largest.
The company intends to open 50 more stations in the Bajío, which includes parts of the states of Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Guanajuato and Querétaro, during the first quarter of 2018.
In the long term, ExxonMobil plans to invest US $300 million in logistics, inventory and the sale of its fuels over the next 10 years.
The new stations are being operated by the Mexican fuel sales and firm Grupo Orsan, which already owns 140 gas stations in Mexico.
ExxonMobil transports its own gasolines and diesel from a Texas refinery to its Bajío storage and distribution facilities through the Kansas City Southern rail network.
“The opening of these first eight Mobil service stations, made possible by Mexico’s new energy policy regime, is a significant milestone for the country and our company,” said Carlos Rivas Chávez, fuels director for ExxonMobil México.
“We look forward to helping meet the country’s growing demand for energy with a reliable supply of high-quality fuels and a positive customer experience.”
Grupo Orsan CEO Carlos Sandoval Armijo commented that the alliance with ExxonMobil will boost both firms’ competitiveness in the new open fuels market.
Exxon Mobil is bringing two brands of gasoline: Mobil Synergy Supreme+ and Mobil Synergy Extra (comparable to Pemex’s Premium and Magna, respectively) and one of diesel, Mobil Synergy Diesel.
The newspaper El Economista compared Mobil prices with those of Pemex and found that Supreme+, at 17.90 pesos per liter, was three centavos cheaper than Premium, while Extra, sold at 16.18 pesos, was four centavos cheaper than Magna.
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Ed White
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Moisheh, can you please post a link to the Tesoro/Arco article/information - I'd like to follow up with Arco to see if they will give me more information.
Mexicowanderer, thanks for that Mexico News Daily article. All of the signs continue to point to a major change in the diesel retail market over the next year. Looks like I'll finally be able to retire from 11 years of monitoring and advising on this topic.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Ed, you've got the Pemex pipeline map. One line shoots straight down from El Pazo, to the Bajio. A lot of that fuel will eventually be pumped rather than carried.
And the map also shows the routing as to how gasoline enters Baja California the northern through Mexicali, and is piped to El Sauzal then north to Tijuana.
Ships, tankers are carrying a lot of fuel to East Coast ports as far south as Villahermosa.
The Arco Tidewater Valero refinery in Mtz CA. has been supplying Baja California for years. Shell and Tidewater have exchanged base fuels since I manned the alkylation plant in Martinez since the early 1970's. Refineries trade base fuels (no additives) like I change underwear. But remember, Mexico still specifies MTBE for a number of geographical locations. I doubt shipments originating in the USA have MTBE, one derail and spill would cause a nightmare.
Nothing as dangerous as a reporter that believes old news (but new to him) is an exclusive. Such is the Tesoro/Tidewater/Arco mulch. A majority of UBA diesel for Baja California used to be Chevron, Exxon, and Shell Oil. Alongside every mainland RR track in Texas, NM, Ariz, and California are enough SP pipelines to transfer fuel without interruption in case of a major refinery process upset.
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moisheh
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ED: I will look for my post on this subject but here is one link.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/n........rst-to-sell-andeavors-arco-brand-of.html
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