Reddog1
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Freep wrote:Reddog1 wrote: I also said I never would go back to "corner peg-legs", but I have. Went from my SRW 2WD to my new to me DRW 4x4. I had to remove the lift for the DRW. I have every intention to modify my lift from the SRW to DRW this winter.
Wayne
Please post plenty of pictures when you do this modification. I'm trying to convince my wife to go with the stable-lift but she thinks it's ugly.
I'm the one who gets to do the loading and unloading. Maybe I should get her to do it a couple of times and see if that changes her mind. Sharing thoughts on what is and what is not ugly can really cause hurt feelings. For example could you imagine being in a public place and telling someone they had an ugly baby and it was so ugly you would not have it? ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin") I think when you have a Stable Lift and you don't like the looks it is like one of your kids, you get used to it. Some people just do not like the looks of the lift. I personally do not like the white lifts on all colors of trucks. When I bought mine I had to pay $250 extra for black. Just my preference.
I don't like most of the decals on TC, to me most look tacky and overtime they fail and look awful.
You may be the one who loads and unloads the TC, but there is a way to impress her. With your TC loaded, during strong gusty wind raise the TC off the bed with the wife standing beside you. Watch the TC sway. You can can bump it up by doing the same thing on moist/wet ground, and watch the jacks slowly sink in the ground. I suggest this test with the TC on the truck simply because it is so unsafe with the standard four jack system. There are time you will be camping with the TC unloaded when the wind comes up, what do you do? I have never had a problem loading or unloading in windy conditions with my Stable Lift. Fact is, when my wife watched me load my TC in the rain Nd strong wind, she demanded I buy the ugly lift.
TCs with four jacks look pretty ugly to me when they are off the truck. Mine is no exception. They look like a big potato with four toothpicks sticking out of it. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes") I have never seen any that did not wobble, the more they are extended, the more they wobble.
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Wayne... Astute observation. A big potato with 4 toothpicks... Of course they wobble, part of the 'TC experience'....lol
Why I park mine in the 'L' shaped corner between the garage and the shop. I can leave it at load height without fear of it 'blowing over' in the wind.
Back to reality..
I know that Lance states that you can occupy (use) the camper off the truck (states that in the owners manual), at least I think it did in as much as I no longer own the Lance, I seem to remember that but...
Does that apply to all makes of truck campers? Not sure about that.
I seem to remember Kayteg posting a picture of his Fleetwood (I think) off the truck and it showed a gap between the floor and the cabinets where the floor was bowing down, from, I presume the pressure of the jacks exerted on the sides, causing the floor to bow. Wouldn't occupying a camper that does that amplify the issue?
My P'up don't do that but I remember his picture a while ago. My owners manual does not state one way or another about occupying the unit off truck, something I'll check out with Palomino next time I visit the factory which will be this fall as I need to pick up some upgrades I want to install.
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Reddog1
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notsobigjoe wrote:burningman wrote:walkeraw wrote: I didn't need to install the saddle brackets, since I have running boards installed.
Wait, what?? What have running boards got to do with it?
I've got running boards, they're no substitute for the brackets.
Yea, I was curious about this to. Can you explain a little more? walkeraw's situation may be the same as mine. On my '96 Dodge SRW, the running boards hang low enough they were the controlling factor on how much ground clearence my lift had. As I recall, without the running boards I could have had an additional 1 to 2 inches clearence. I decided to leave it, and it never became an issue.
When I install the lift for my DRW, I will again have to consider the running boards.
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hedge
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A couple questions.
1. can you control the individual jack motors individually?
2. why 2 motors on 1 side and 1 on the other? I guess I like congruency
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Reddog1
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SidecarFlip wrote:Wayne... Astute observation. A big potato with 4 toothpicks... Of course they wobble, part of the 'TC experience'....lol With the Stable Lift, you will loose the wobble experience, change your looks from a big potato with 4 toothpicks to a TC dragging a Swing set.
SidecarFlip wrote:Why I park mine in the 'L' shaped corner between the garage and the shop. I can leave it at load height without fear of it 'blowing over' in the wind. If you use the struts provided with the lift, you can bring it out of the corner and leave it at load height. It will not sway with the wind.
SidecarFlip wrote:Back to reality..
I know that Lance states that you can occupy (use) the camper off the truck (states that in the owners manual), at least I think it did in as much as I no longer own the Lance, I seem to remember that but...
Does that apply to all makes of truck campers? Not sure about that. From my forum experience through the years, some TCs can be used off the truck on the jacks and some cannot. Some can be stored off the truck on the jacks but not walked in while on the jacks. It is about how the TC is constructed. A given manufacturer may have models with different requirements.
My 1500 series (non basement) Bigfoot is not recommended for use on jacks off the truck due to potential cracks in the floor gel coat. I understand the 2500 series (basement) Bigfoot may be used on jacks off the truck.
SidecarFlip wrote:I seem to remember Kayteg posting a picture of his Fleetwood (I think) off the truck and it showed a gap between the floor and the cabinets where the floor was bowing down, from, I presume the pressure of the jacks exerted on the sides, causing the floor to bow. Wouldn't occupying a camper that does that amplify the issue? That has nothing to do with the jacks. That is how the camper is constructed, the floor structure and its attachment to the sides. Totally unrelated to the jacks or Stable Lift.
SidecarFlip wrote:My P'up don't do that but I remember his picture a while ago. My owners manual does not state one way or another about occupying the unit off truck, something I'll check out with Palomino next time I visit the factory which will be this fall as I need to pick up some upgrades I want to install. Only the manufacture knows for sure.
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Reddog1
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hedge wrote:A couple questions.
1. can you control the individual jack motors individually?
2. why 2 motors on 1 side and 1 on the other? I guess I like congruency 1 You can control each motor individually. There are three toggle switches.
2 Only three motors are required. I see a couple of reasons.
a Depending on which motor the are using, typically it will handle over 3000 lbs. One motor easily lifts one side of the TC and it saves the expense of the second motor.
b With one jack (motor) on one side the TC balances on that jack. The two jacks on the opposite side of the TC tilts (levels) the TC front to rear. All three jacks raise or lower the TC. You can raise or lower the single jack to level side to side or you can raise or lower both of the two jacks to level side to side.
c With one jack, on the driverside it can make it easier to access the fuel filler.
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notsobigjoe
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Reddog1 wrote:hedge wrote:A couple questions.
1. can you control the individual jack motors individually?
2. why 2 motors on 1 side and 1 on the other? I guess I like congruency 1 You can control each motor individually. There are three toggle switches.
2 Only three motors are required. I see a couple of reasons.
a Depending on which motor the are using, typically it will handle over 3000 lbs. One motor easily lifts one side of the TC and it saves the expense of the second motor.
b With one jack (motor) on one side the TC balances on that jack. The two jacks on the opposite side of the TC tilts (levels) the TC front to rear. All three jacks raise or lower the TC. You can raise or lower the single jack to level side to side or you can raise or lower both of the two jacks to level side to side.
c With one jack, on the driverside it can make it easier to access the fuel filler.
Wayne
Wayne, do you have a problem with your jacks locking up? My have been a little iffy lately.
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Reddog1 wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:burningman wrote:walkeraw wrote: I didn't need to install the saddle brackets, since I have running boards installed.
Wait, what?? What have running boards got to do with it?
I've got running boards, they're no substitute for the brackets.
Yea, I was curious about this to. Can you explain a little more? walkeraw's situation may be the same as mine. On my '96 Dodge SRW, the running boards hang low enough they were the controlling factor on how much ground clearence my lift had. As I recall, without the running boards I could have had an additional 1 to 2 inches clearence. I decided to leave it, and it never became an issue.
When I install the lift for my DRW, I will again have to consider the running boards.
Wayne
But that's the opposite of what he said. He said he didn't need to install his saddle brackets because of his running boards. That still makes no sense.
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Reddog1
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notsobigjoe, never had a problem with the jacks "locking up". I would need more info to help identify the issue.
I did have a problem once with the single motor really straining to lift its side of the TC. I switched it with a motor from the opposite side and had no improvement. I then checked my Trimetric and my battery was fully charged. I checked all connections, found no problems but the lift worked just fine. Point is, had to be a bad connection.
After that experience, I made a set of jumpers that I can use to go directly from any 12v source to any of the three jacks to raise or lower the jack. So far, the jumpers have been a waste of time cause they have not been needed.
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Reddog1
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burningman, I'm just guessing but could be he is still using his original tie downs. Could be he is using his running boards to clamp the TC to the truck, and relies on the friction to prevent the TC from moving forward and rearward. Actually makes sense. Hard to believe the TC will go forward after bumping the front of the bed. Lots of friction to slide out the back if clamped to the running boards. Interesting thought.
Why do we use tie downs to keep the TC from sliding forward?
Wayne
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