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Reisender wrote:
Hey Sam.
A lot will have to do with the trailer you choose. We helped a fellow install his brake control in his model Y tesla. He bought some raised off road trailer with a big air conditioner on the top. Maybe 4500 pounds ish. We warned him he would get probably half the range we got pulling our teardrop. Sure enough. He had major range problems. We get like two to three times the range. But we also tow at like 90 to 95 kph max and our trailer size is matched well to the car.
Like anything else compare apples to apples. If you intend to pull a 25 foot high 11 foot tall trailer at 110 kph find someone who pulls something similar and pick his brain. In our experience frontal load, height and speed are the big factors.
We had no problem crossing the country in our combo. Everyone has different needs and wants. But careful on drawing too many conclusions from these YouTube tow offs. There are lots of folks on the Facebook ev towing forums getting 200 to 300 kilometres of range with their F150 lightnings towing their smaller trailers. Right tool, right job etc.
Safe travels.
John.
John,
I'll be happy if it gets a range of 150 to 180 miles while towing as this is my normal bathroom-lunch breaks between campsites.
I'm also thinking of getting a better streamlined truck camper to get to a comfortable range.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote: time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Have you upgraded your Cybertruck reservation for dual motor?
I already did mine awhile ago.
Holding off on F150 Lightning with the report of poor towing performance where the 300 miles went down to 78 miles with a tow.
I cancelled my Cybertruck order and will be putting a $100 deposit on this since I still have my big 8.1 3500 van and my wife has a Honda Fit. I also have two E bikes that I use often.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote: PButler96 wrote: Yosemite Sam1 wrote: time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Have you upgraded your Cybertruck reservation for dual motor?
I already did mine awhile ago.
Holding off on F150 Lightning with the report of poor towing performance where the 300 miles went down to 78 miles with a tow.
What leads you to believe the Tesla will have better range when towing than the F150? Common sense will tell you the F-150 has more room for batteries. How much is a train ticket to Poughkeepsie?
Unlike so many people who got cloudy crystal balls, I don't do foretelling beyond my skills set or pay grade.
So I usually wait and watch as I did on F150 Lightning.
And I'll do the same on Cybertruck -- if you don't mind.
I have a neighbour here on the campground pulling a trailer on his Rivian. He said he is getting 45% reduction in range with the tow.
Still I won't speculate on whether Cybertruck will be equal, less or more. I'll just wait, observe, learn and decide (although that's made up already) when someone do the tests on real life road conditions.
Fair?
Hey Sam.
A lot will have to do with the trailer you choose. We helped a fellow install his brake control in his model Y tesla. He bought some raised off road trailer with a big air conditioner on the top. Maybe 4500 pounds ish. We warned him he would get probably half the range we got pulling our teardrop. Sure enough. He had major range problems. We get like two to three times the range. But we also tow at like 90 to 95 kph max and our trailer size is matched well to the car.
Like anything else compare apples to apples. If you intend to pull a 25 foot high 11 foot tall trailer at 110 kph find someone who pulls something similar and pick his brain. In our experience frontal load, height and speed are the big factors.
We had no problem crossing the country in our combo. Everyone has different needs and wants. But careful on drawing too many conclusions from these YouTube tow offs. There are lots of folks on the Facebook ev towing forums getting 200 to 300 kilometres of range with their F150 lightnings towing their smaller trailers. Right tool, right job etc.
Safe travels.
John.
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PButler96 wrote: Yosemite Sam1 wrote: time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Have you upgraded your Cybertruck reservation for dual motor?
I already did mine awhile ago.
Holding off on F150 Lightning with the report of poor towing performance where the 300 miles went down to 78 miles with a tow.
What leads you to believe the Tesla will have better range when towing than the F150? Common sense will tell you the F-150 has more room for batteries. How much is a train ticket to Poughkeepsie?
Unlike so many people who got cloudy crystal balls, I don't do foretelling beyond my skills set or pay grade.
So I usually wait and watch as I did on F150 Lightning.
And I'll do the same on Cybertruck -- if you don't mind.
I have a neighbour here on the campground pulling a trailer on his Rivian. He said he is getting 45% reduction in range with the tow.
Still I won't speculate on whether Cybertruck will be equal, less or more. I'll just wait, observe, learn and decide (although that's made up already) when someone do the tests on real life road conditions.
Fair?
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote: time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Have you upgraded your Cybertruck reservation for dual motor?
I already did mine awhile ago.
Holding off on F150 Lightning with the report of poor towing performance where the 300 miles went down to 78 miles with a tow.
What leads you to believe the Tesla will have better range when towing than the F150? Common sense will tell you the F-150 has more room for batteries. How much is a train ticket to Poughkeepsie?
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How come you can't find any specs on what the semi weighs? I know the GCW is 82,000 lbs., I believe that's Fed limit. But what part of that 82,000 lbs. is the actual semi, I mean what's it's payload? Just curious.
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Grit dog wrote: So mkirsch, which fender flares have ya picked out?
I'm still not holding my breath for your brake and shear DIY Cybertruck?
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time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Have you upgraded your Cybertruck reservation for dual motor?
I already did mine awhile ago.
Holding off on F150 Lightning with the report of poor towing performance where the 300 miles went down to 78 miles with a tow.
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time2roll wrote: 8.1 Van wrote: Tesla could make ten Model Y SUVs with the same amount of batteries from one Tesla Semi and they make a 30% profit margin on the Model Y that is sold out until 2023.. Performance version is available sooner. The fuel savings vs continuing to drive that dually may pay for much of the upgrade to get it sooner.
Is this a riddle or something?
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https://www.tesla.com/semi
Semi Specs
Fully Loaded at 82k lbs Gross Combination Weight
Mile Range Approximately 300 or 500 miles
0-60 mph 20 seconds
Speed Up a 5% Grade Highway speed limit
Powertrain 3 independent motors on rear axles
Energy Consumption Less than 2 kWh per mile
Fast Charging Up to 70% of range in 30 minutes
Fuel Savings (est.) Up to $200,000 over 3 years
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