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This article is what I’ve been thinking all the while...BEV’s are okay, but not there yet...hybrids make more sense

Tesla Owners Are Buying Toyota RAV4 Prime Plug-in Hybrids

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Top Reason Tesla Owners Buy a Toyota RAV4 Prime– Unlimited Range

While PHEVs only have a limited all-electric range, 42 miles in the case of the RAV4 Prime, they have unlimited mileage in the sense that they carry enough liquid fuel to go 600 miles or more before stopping for energy.

And when they do stop, they can either grab electrons if time and charging ports permit, or they can stop for a few moments on any corner and add back another 500 miles or more in energy.

The hassles and limited range associated with Tesla BEVs are a big reason many of these green vehicle owners say they opted for the RAV4 Prime. Here are their own words:


- We still have our Model 3 and prefer it on trips. But it is only fair as a tow vehicle as the range stinks, and charging is a pain when towing. And to boot, most National Parks have no electric. So when we are towing, the RAV4 Prime is a clear winner. D.H.

- The Prime would be for my wife and family long road trips. It may be a long time before EV’s are practical for long family road trips during busy holiday seasons. B.C.

- While BEVs have made great progress in the last ten years, they are still not there yet when it comes to long-distance travel or at parity with ICE vehicles when it comes to range, charging infrastructure, or just plain old convenience. BEVs are our 95% car, but when it comes to long-distance travel, nothing beats an ICE. A PHEV like the Prime is a great compromise for that part of our travel. G.L.

- Traded the Model 3 because I wanted one vehicle that could go on longer road trips without stopping every 2 hrs. C.W.

- Have had a Tesla Model S for two years now, and I love it. Not a perfect car, but it’s nice not to have to pay for gas and associated maintenance. Plus, it’s dead sexy. That said, we like having a RAV4 Prime for longer trips. J.J.

Second Reason Tesla Owners Buy a Toyota RAV4 Prime - Towing

While not a vehicle that aimed at towing, the RAV4 Prime is used by many owners for towing. It’s rated at 2,500 pounds.

Many owners use the tow hitch for other purposes, most commonly to hold a multi-bike rack. In addition to D.H. above, who lists towing as a second reason to own both a Tesla and also a RAV4 Prime, C.W added, “Backcountry camping with tow capability was an extra plus. I do 99% of in-town miles in EV. Nice to do everything with one car.”

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Tesla NEWEST EV Batteries vs Solid State Lithium Metal Batteries

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Faster charging is just an incremental improvement that has little effect on home charging where the vast majority of charging actually takes place.
I also read solid state may have fewer cycles and will not go a million miles like the newest Tesla battery.
Competition is good and this should play out well to improve all EVs.


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Wonder how easily Tusk’s wet Lith-Ion can be converted to solid Lith-Ion battery technology ?

Then the repackaging of everything or will he able to make solid state batteries in the same form factor ?

Since solid state batteries can be recharged in fractions of the time a regular lith-ion battery that takes hours...the transition will be very quick.




Toyota's Solid-State Battery Will Crush Tesla Li-Ion Updates

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Apple or Android? Tesla or Toyota? New battery technology coming from an automotive world leader is sure to bring a massive change to the EV revolution.
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If you talk to anyone who has been a die-hard Apple user since the inception of the iPhone, you will come to learn something about them. Apple is the end-all of smartphone technology. Android users disagree entirely with that, claiming that Android-based phones are far superior, giving them more customization and features.

While that debate will rage on eternally, another fight is happening in a different technological realm, automotive. It is the battle over the electric car and the technology surrounding it, particularly battery technology.

If you have ever met a Tesla fan, you will know they are like Apple users, and many of them probably are. They admire the hard work and thought put into the Tesla vehicles by co-founder Elon Musk. They look at him as some form of tech leader that has graced their every waking moment with the hope of a better future.

The thing with Tesla owners is they are very rooted in everything about the company. They are the early adopters and will be Tesla owners for the rest of their lives, just like Apple users.

So what happens when something else comes out to challenge the status quo? What happens when another car company comes out with something that is ultimately better? We are entering a time in history where we see this happen right before our eyes. Most just do not understand it, though.


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Elon Musk Floats Idea Of Starting One Pa........To Hold Tesla, SpaceX, Boring, Neuralink

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Tesla Gigafactory Texas 22 December 2020........ck & Model Y Factory Construction Update

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Tesla Terafactory Texas Update #79 in 4K: Concrete Columns Up North

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The Tesla Semi 2021 Update Is Here! We're diving into everything about the Tesla Semi today looking at the news and updates for 2021. We'll be reviewing the performance, range, design, batteries and more.

The Tesla Semi 2021 Update Is Here

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time2roll wrote:

The trick is building a vehicle people want to drive. Right now that is Tesla in the EV area.

I thought Apple was more about self driving technology than producing a fun car to drive. Combined with Apple is not really a low price leader with any existing products I think it will be a lower volume vehicle.

Competition is good. Best of luck to all of them.


Their skills set could be in self-driving/AI and battery tech. All others could be outsourced.

That's why now that they missed investing in Tesla, another logical move is to either buy out Ford or partner with GM or other car companies as Apple have more cash than they can use in a lifetime.

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The trick is building a vehicle people want to drive. Right now that is Tesla in the EV area.

I thought Apple was more about self driving technology than producing a fun car to drive. Combined with Apple is not really a low price leader with any existing products I think it will be a lower volume vehicle.

Competition is good. Best of luck to all of them.

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I think the Volvo electrics will probably make it into the North American market. But they are currently built in China. I haven’t seen any scuttlebutt on a North American factory yet.

I know the first Nissan Arriyas will be built in Japan but wondering if they won’t eventually use the leaf factory in Tennessee.

The only other significant North American EV development is the Mexican efforts to build a centre of excellence for EV manufacturing. This all started with Ford building the Mustang E there but apparently there is a push at every level including trades training etc to make it more attractive for other manufacturers to locate their E car/truck manufacturing there. Hope it goes well for them.

GM looks like they are getting serious with their E-car efforts in the US. Took them awhile but they could be major players in 4 or 5 years.

Chrysler? Crickets. [emoticon]


European or US brands manufactured in China should not have any issues re-exported back and sold into their own countries.

Chinese brands sold in Europe and North America will have repetitional hurdle.

Maybe they can overcome it in 10 to 20 as what happened with Japanese and South Korean brands.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Apple into EV

And then there is Apple.

There has been suggestion of Apple investing into Tesla for a tech partnership with Apple extending it's ecosystem.

But that ship has sailed and it appears Apple will do the EV by themselves.

Interesting!


Competition is good. It looks like Xpeng, considered to be a Chinese Tesla clone, is also starting exports into Europe. Hopefully North America next.


Long term I think Chinese companies are going to be a dominating force in the EV market.


Some 3 years ago, there were already several Chinese companies wanting to build EV cars here. Still none is on the road.

I know, I got a call from one in SoCal asking me if I'll be interested to work for them.


I think the Volvo electrics will probably make it into the North American market. But they are currently built in China. I haven’t seen any scuttlebutt on a North American factory yet.

I know the first Nissan Arriyas will be built in Japan but wondering if they won’t eventually use the leaf factory in Tennessee.

The only other significant North American EV development is the Mexican efforts to build a centre of excellence for EV manufacturing. This all started with Ford building the Mustang E there but apparently there is a push at every level including trades training etc to make it more attractive for other manufacturers to locate their E car/truck manufacturing there. Hope it goes well for them.

GM looks like they are getting serious with their E-car efforts in the US. Took them awhile but they could be major players in 4 or 5 years.

Chrysler? Crickets. [emoticon]

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