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PastorCharlie wrote:

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I spent some time tonight looking at some options for the doors to cover the shelves in the bath wall. Yes, I said doors, with an s.

A single door that's about 12" wide and over 6 feet tall, is just not going to work well. So, I decided to split them up into 3 doors, each about 2 feet tall.

That will be easier to manage.

After spending too much time on options, I settled on a frame and panel design, something like below. This just shows the frame without the panel inside.

That means I'll be working on that tomorrow.



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I like to use folding louver doors and make them operate separate for such occasions. I have used decorative doors to accomplish what you are working on.

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After a little thought, folding doors in a moving rv, doesn't sound like the best idea. Maybe I am missing something.


Separate the folding doors and make them into two regular hinged doors. I installed seven shelves in a 6'8" opening such as you are working with, and it holds a massive number of items and storage.




I hadn't thought of splitting them in the middle. Hmmmmmm.....


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Well, the wife told me to take the weekend off since it was New Years, so I figured perhaps I should.

Back at it today, and another idea shot to ... smithereenes....

I started to try to assemble the first frame for one of the doors in the bath area, and just blew it up.



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Just in case you thought that it may have been way too thin ....



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Yup, just a 1/16" shy of 3/4", or 11/16" if you prefer. So, that didn't work out well. On one of them, I even drilled out a hole for the screw in the secondary member, and it still split.

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My next step was to try using a spline joint at the corners.



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After the glue dries tomorrow, I'll see how that seems to hold together. Perhaps that will work much better.



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I can go a little deeper with the spline, but I figured I'd try one that is nearly 1/2 way through the one member, and used a piece of 1/4" plywood as the spline.

We'll see how that holds up tomorrow.

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I think I would forgo the doors and put one or two rods accross above the shelves at varying heights.


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Looks like a perfect place to use biscuits. I have used biscuit joints over the years, even outdoor projects, with great success. And they are easy to make.


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I think I would forgo the doors and put one or two rods accross above the shelves at varying heights.




Thanks for the idea. We talked about that a bit, and it's a possibility at this point.

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Looks like a perfect place to use biscuits. I have used biscuit joints over the years, even outdoor projects, with great success. And they are easy to make.




I haven't used biscuits, but I have used mortise and tenon, and splines at times. When done right, I like the strength of mortise and tenon, although it takes some extra time to get them done properly.

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I took a good look at the spline today as the glue was dry. It's nice and strong, which I like, and resists racking, which is good when pulling on a door.



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I had to make a bunch of frames similar to that and found a half-lap joint to work well. If you set up your table saw, you can cut a bunch of them very quickly, in one operation. Run the piece through a number of times, nibbling away the material so the depth and length of the lap are the same on each. A bandsaw works too but requires two set-ups. Assembly with glue and a couple of small brads, and the wood will bust before the joint.

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I had to make a bunch of frames similar to that and found a half-lap joint to work well. If you set up your table saw, you can cut a bunch of them very quickly, in one operation. Run the piece through a number of times, nibbling away the material so the depth and length of the lap are the same on each. A bandsaw works too but requires two set-ups. Assembly with glue and a couple of small brads, and the wood will bust before the joint.

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Thanks for the post. Not sure why my brain went blank on this section, but it did.

That's not a joint I normally use, but in this case, I am going to make an excepion.

Thanks.

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