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sullyman

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Posted: 02/07/17 08:26am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Both 2017.
Jayco is about $2,000 more. Same Ford chassis
1. Which do you all think is better built. The feeling i got was the Jayco.
2. The Sunseeker has airbag suspension which can be adjusted and the Jayco has their J-Ride. Which is better?
3. Jayco has tank-less hot water vs 6 gallon in Sunseeker. Of course grey-water tank capacity limits overall use. The norm seems to be the 6 gallon type tank. Are there issues to be aware of with tank-less? Failure/maintenance/other
3. 2 year warranty on Jayco vs 1 year on Sunseeker. Could this be a deal maker or breaker?
4. What is a realistic discount off "msrp" when buying?
5. Are "Show Specials" a real deal or is there still room for a better price?
6. Jayco has solid fiberglass front cap. Sunseeker has seams, how big of a deal is this with a new unit?

Any other thoughts or comments are appreciated. This would be my first RV and I don't want to screw it up right away. Am aware maintenance is on-going and things happen, but want issues to be minimized

Thanks, I appreciate your input

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We were just at the Pontiac (Illinois) RV dealership open house. I did not pay strict attention to the price postings, but my recollection is that Sunseekers listed as upper 80s MSRP were being offered in the mid to upper 60s. My wife recalls the same. These were white, not full body paint. Models in the 30xx numbers.

When we bought ours there, we got 37% off MSRP. MSRP is sort of a fiction in the RV industry, I think. We got our good price by starting at RVdirect.com, getting a price from them. Then asking midwest dealers if they would meet that price. Pontiac RV actually beat it. I think RVD sells Jayco's too, so you can get a price on both Sunseeker and Jayco from them. They have a dealership in Des Moines, so not too bad if you actually buy from them.

From your bullet points, I would rate #6, Jayco's cap, as the most important advantage between the two brands.

I personally don't think I'd want the tankless heater, but I guess I'd be willing to try one.

You didn't mention the roof. Climb up on each and see what you think. Sunseeker is fiberglass, but has the water puddle catching built up seams above the sidewalls. Then it has a separate piece which wraps over the sidewalls. I don't know what Jayco has. If Jayco wraps over the sides in once piece, I would like that better. In our case, I will just make sure to get up and inspect a couple of times a year. This would not keep me from buying another Sunseeker, but still.

An extra year of warranty could be nice. Certainly can't hurt.


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Posted: 02/07/17 11:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Go with the Jayco.





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I like Jayco too! Bags.


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Jayco makes a better coach. You don't want airbags. You want a properly built suspension that can handle the weight. We have a 2009 Greyhawk 31FS. Jayco had not coined the term J-Ride yet, but our Motorhome has the same components. Our Motorhome handles great at highways speeds. I drive with one hand and can drive 12+ hours a day without a problem - do it several times a year.

You should try to get 25% off MSRP. We got 26% off MSRP when we bought ours. It took 4 years before NADA guides valued our MH less than what we paid for it.

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sullyman wrote:

Both 2017.

3. Jayco has tank-less hot water vs 6 gallon in Sunseeker. Of course grey-water tank capacity limits overall use. The norm seems to be the 6 gallon type tank. Are there issues to be aware of with tank-less? Failure/maintenance/other


6. Jayco has solid fiberglass front cap. Sunseeker has seams, how big of a deal is this with a new unit?


We have a 201 Jayco 31FK.

#3 - The Tank vs. Tankless is only slightly less controversial than the faked moon landings and the Hatfields/McCoys.

For every one that says they like the tankless, you'll find one that hates it.

#6 - that's a big deal to me.

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Been looking at both, Jayco is very nice, Sunseeker a bit lower grade but packed with so much more. Swivel front seat,house cd and house radio, recliner sofa,Kitchen flip extra counter space, Bunks can covert to seating with seatbelt, better coach storage,enclosed black/gray water., outdoor tv, Better passenger entry. Of course, Jayco, better shades , curb appeal inside and out,power seats front and passenger, plush seats too, 2 year warranty, Ride is smooth, quiet, no sounds, plus push button on coach side entry. So many pros and cons. The basic white model color is not attractive in Sunseeker, You have to go to the full body paint to look good. The basic Jayco is an off white which looks great. You don't have to look to full body paint to get nice looking coach. I had white, shows too much.


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Jayco. Period

#6, still a bit controversial. The new solid caps makes total sense, but after a recent visit to a local fiberglass shop I heard differently that they weaken over time due to the abuse/weather/heat and repairs are much more costly. Just one opinion.


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My wife and I saw the Jayco Greyhawk 29 MV at a RV show and we absolutely loved it and the side shower is huge! I stepped into it and had all kinds of room. The floor plan diagram doesn't really show how big the shower really is! Bags.

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Yep. still sold on the Jayco, Love the 29W open floor plan, Great sitting area and ushape lounge, 4 door frig with great counter space. Great under carriage storage. The 2018's are coming out now with new colors and I hear and small changes with price increase with frig. Looking to find one on lot somewhere and make a deal. Best thing I like about that jayco is the front power and plush seats, spend a lot of time there. Woodwork looks so nice compared to others. Going to drive the 29W and 31FS with bunks one more time and settle on one. I know the grand kids like bunks but I like the more open floor plan. Great for AC flow to rear of unit too. When its closed up It still feels likes its open. Love that when you just need to pull off side of road and enjoy the unit for a bit and take that break. All great comments. Hope to keep them going. I am sure we all will have questions.

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