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SoundGuy wrote:

Dick_B wrote:

Jayco has been around forever so they must be doing something right.


'Though now no longer a family business as it was during all those "forever" years, having been ***Link Removed*** to mega giant Thor Industries. Too early to say if that's good or bad but Jayco founder Lloyd Bontrager would probably be rolling in his grave if he knew the family had finally sold out his beloved creation. [emoticon]


The J flight 195, weighs in at around 3000, 2980+-

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SoundGuy wrote:

Dick_B wrote:

Jayco has been around forever so they must be doing something right.


'Though now no longer a family business as it was during all those "forever" years, having been ***Link Removed*** to mega giant Thor Industries. Too early to say if that's good or bad but Jayco founder Lloyd Bontrager would probably be rolling in his grave if he knew the family had finally sold out his beloved creation. [emoticon]



It seems that the consences is that the Jayco JLX ultralights are "thrown together". Is this what most people think of these. Now I'm thinking steer clear of the cheaper anything ?.

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Camping friends have a 2013 Jayco Swift 185 RB, it seems to be a decent trailer and is holding up well. The only issue was with the side mount AC leaking in the wall which was fixed under warranty. They had a blowout on the way back from Colorado last fall on the original Chinese tires which were about due to be replaced anyway.

This is a trailer that was built while still a family owned business don't know how much the quality has changed since.


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ggolds5 wrote:

My GVW rating is 5000.

This whole thing is making me very nervous, I just want a good camper that won't fall apart.


This upcoming season will be our 5th with our Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS and other than requiring the usual minor corrections we haven't had any major issues so I wouldn't have any reservation recommending it as a great couple's model for those with a suitable tow vehicle. However, since your vehicle's tow rating is so limited you might want to take a look at the Coachmen Apex Nano series to see if there's anything there that interests you. My own Coachmen dealer sells quite a few each season, with no more quality issues than with the Freedom Express series. [emoticon]


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SoundGuy wrote:

ggolds5 wrote:

My GVW rating is 5000.

This whole thing is making me very nervous, I just want a good camper that won't fall apart.


This upcoming season will be our 5th with our Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS and other than requiring the usual minor corrections we haven't had any major issues so I wouldn't have any reservation recommending it as a great couple's model for those with a suitable tow vehicle. However, since your vehicle's tow rating is so limited you might want to take a look at the Coachmen Apex Nano series to see if there's anything there that interests you. My own Coachmen dealer sells quite a few each season, with no more quality issues than with the Freedom Express series. [emoticon]



Yes see my post below to a link and video of the Nano by coachmen...

Its a nice lite unit with a slide..


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We just got back from the RV super show in Tampa and the coolest small trailer we saw was the SERRO SCOTTY retro campers. Very nice floor plans, roomy dry baths, nice interior colors, and looked like they were well made. Not sure about the prices but well worth the time to research.


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All,

Here's a though: the Travel Lite Falcon 20 I could tow it quite easily with my 2013 4Runner.

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I appreciate everyones advice. We just got back from a dealer today that sells KZ. We thought they were pretty cool overall. Seemed to be well made but I don't understand how I see so many trim flaws on everything. Even the KZ we looked at had wall paper trim literally glued to the bottom of the window sill. What's with that?. Another had an outlet that was partially screwed into the wall missing the studs and crooked. This is like the stuff you would see in the 1970's Chrysler vehicles. Then, I can't understand this tire stuff. Why put such cheap junky tires on Trailers?. I hear of so many blowouts. Then people talk about axles breaking. We also saw a few Livin Lite's. One looked like a bullet nose 17 foot Vista Cruiser which was really nice, but my wife thought it was overpriced for what you get but it appeared to be very high quality.

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Dick_B wrote:

Jayco has been around forever so they must be doing something right.
No excuse for them but the `lite' trailers are lighter in weight for some reason and part of it is lower quality materials ie. frame, cabinets, countertops and they sell for less. Thus the companies can't afford to spend much time on making them and workmanship suffers.
It was the same story when we were in the sailboat world. It took almost as many manhours to build a small boat as a large boat but the companies could not charge as much due to market competition and the desire of the buyer to not spend much.
I like to do business with a dealer close to my home so I can build a relationship where they might go the extra mile to solve any problems I might find.


This myth about "lite trailers" continues to perpetuate itself here on this forum. I have towed an "Ultra Light" 29foot 4,400 pounds dry travel trailer coast to coast WITHOUT ISSUE. Not even a flat tire with the so called "China bombs".

IMHO-yes the are built with lighter materials but that doesn't mean they are going to rattle themselves apart. That's just non-sense. With a "full line" manufacturer-they don't want you to have any negative experiences with their product because they are looking at you as a future customer-buying a bigger, better trailer (or other RV) next time around.

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ggolds5 wrote:

SoundGuy wrote:

Dick_B wrote:

Jayco has been around forever so they must be doing something right.


'Though now no longer a family business as it was during all those "forever" years, having been ***Link Removed*** to mega giant Thor Industries. Too early to say if that's good or bad but Jayco founder Lloyd Bontrager would probably be rolling in his grave if he knew the family had finally sold out his beloved creation. [emoticon]



It seems that the consences is that the Jayco JLX ultralights are "thrown together". Is this what most people think of these. Now I'm thinking steer clear of the cheaper anything ?.

I appreciate everyones advice. We just got back from a dealer today that sells KZ. We thought they were pretty cool overall. Seemed to be well made but I don't understand how I see so many trim flaws on everything. Even the KZ we looked at had wall paper trim literally glued to the bottom of the window sill. What's with that?. Another had an outlet that was partially screwed into the wall missing the studs and crooked. This is like the stuff you would see in the 1970's Chrysler vehicles. Then, I can't understand this tire stuff. Why put such cheap junky tires on Trailers?. I hear of so many blowouts. Then people talk about axles breaking. We also saw a few Livin Lite's. One looked like a bullet nose 17 foot Vista Cruiser which was really nice, but my wife thought it was overpriced for what you get but it appeared to be very high quality.

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