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Topic: NEW QUESTION, was: Small lightweight TC for '06 2500 megacab

Posted By: Grit dog on 12/14/17 09:22am

But like you said, just getting used to driving in the wind I’d say is a good part of the equation. Look at all the big high profile campers on similar trucks going down the road. You’re not getting blown around as much as you could be.
The other thing is what is your end goal? To have it ride like an unmoveable brick, or maintain a balance between load capacity and compliant suspension?


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Posted By: jat4 on 12/14/17 09:51am

Grit dog wrote:

But like you said, just getting used to driving in the wind I’d say is a good part of the equation. Look at all the big high profile campers on similar trucks going down the road. You’re not getting blown around as much as you could be.
The other thing is what is your end goal? To have it ride like an unmoveable brick, or maintain a balance between load capacity and compliant suspension?


I think I got spoiled with pulling the trailer, that was truly an unmovable brick. And I've driven things like panel trucks that didn't seem to have an issue. More of an unfamiliar feeling I guess. The sway bar would be cheap enough to try, plus we've got a lot of winding roads around here, that could help a bit more with cornering.


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Posted By: SidecarFlip on 12/14/17 11:10am

Jim:

Inflate your rear tires to the maximum specified sidewall pressure before anything else. Thhe stiffer the sidewalls are, the less 'tock and sway' you'll feel.

With my pop up, i'm under the cargo capacity but I run the rears at maximum specified (on the sidewall) pressure all the time. In my case 80 psi cold.

Always run wider than stock tires, since way back when. I had to add spacers so at full lock, the tires wouldn't rub.

Never really had an issue with the Lance either. The sway or rock or whatever you want to call it was more than the Palomino, which has none but it was never a cause for alarm, was just there and I adapted to it and the Lance was a sky scraper compared to the Palomino.


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Posted By: SidecarFlip on 12/14/17 11:15am

All the discourse on here about why a dually is better than a SRW truck, falls on deaf ears with me (and you) Neither of us are hauling a barge, neither of us are overloaded and neither of us need an extra set of tites to replace....lol.

A wide hipped truck with my wife driving would last maybe a day and she'd be ripping off the wide hipped fenders....


Posted By: bcbouy on 12/14/17 05:23pm

what brand of side awning do you have? when i ordered my northstar the awnings were fiammas.my side one got trashed in a violent windstorm last summer,but thankfully the rear survived and i need to replace it with something that's easier to deploy when the top is up.if you are like me and carry your camper from the spring into the fall,then a second set of wheels/tires are a worthwhile investment.my winter set of general grabbers are set at a comfy 45/50 psi.

* This post was edited 12/14/17 05:29pm by bcbouy *


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Posted By: GeoBoy on 12/14/17 06:36pm

SidecarFlip wrote:

All the discourse on here about why a dually is better than a SRW truck, falls on deaf ears with me (and you) Neither of us are hauling a barge, neither of us are overloaded and neither of us need an extra set of tites to replace....lol.

A wide hipped truck with my wife driving would last maybe a day and she'd be ripping off the wide hipped fenders....

Flip, does your wife know that you are badmouthing her on the TC forum?[emoticon]


Posted By: SidecarFlip on 12/15/17 08:09am

GeoBoy wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:

All the discourse on here about why a dually is better than a SRW truck, falls on deaf ears with me (and you) Neither of us are hauling a barge, neither of us are overloaded and neither of us need an extra set of tites to replace....lol.

A wide hipped truck with my wife driving would last maybe a day and she'd be ripping off the wide hipped fenders....

Flip, does your wife know that you are badmouthing her on the TC forum?[emoticon]



.... No. She never reads the forum...[emoticon]


Posted By: jat4 on 12/15/17 08:51am

bcbouy wrote:

what brand of side awning do you have? when i ordered my northstar the awnings were fiammas.my side one got trashed in a violent windstorm last summer,but thankfully the rear survived and i need to replace it with something that's easier to deploy when the top is up.if you are like me and carry your camper from the spring into the fall,then a second set of wheels/tires are a worthwhile investment.my winter set of general grabbers are set at a comfy 45/50 psi.


The awning is a Carefree hand crank, pretty simple actually. Once these tires get worn a bit I’ll start looking for a new set, right now I’m eyeballing the piggy bank to see if there’s any room for a set of Blizzaks for this winter, although the ATs will probably get me through this winter. Speaking of snow tires, I’ve got a set of 17 inch Blizzaks with lots of tread left if any of you NY state guys are still without. ;-) make me an offer


Posted By: jat4 on 12/15/17 10:44am

Grit dog wrote:

jat4 wrote:

lol. I appreciate all the responses, and agree that it feels a bit silly asking about mods to a one-ton with only a popup. That said, I think the tires may be the first place to start. That and simply getting used to driving it in the wind some more.

The factory tires are Transforce ATs 275/70/R18s, I've had these on the other trucks and they've been fine. I suppose the tread could also use a bit more wearing in as well. Anyway. If anyone has other thoughts I'd still like to hear them, thanks.


Yes, super stiff tires will help. You could even put on 19.5s for that real “lumber wagon” experience, but the current tires are fine. I’ve hauled our much heavier camper around on OE Ram/Firestone tires without issue for the last 2 summers.
Definitely run 80 in back. 60 is fine in front any more pressure will stiffen the handling a bit at the expense of riding rough.
Looking at your pic, I see some decent sag in back. Not too much but contributes to the bounce and sway.
I’d go this order.
1. Rear Sway-bar. Biggest bang for the buck
2. Air bags, helpers, timbrens whatever you choose
3. Tires


So made conversation with the guy at the truck outfitter shop this morning (was there to order a nerf bar/steps for the truck). They were a bit cool on the rear sway bar but fans of the timbrens idea. They noticed the sag as well and thought the timbrens would help. They're booked pretty solid with snow plow installs etc. right now so I've got time to give it more thought.


Posted By: SidecarFlip on 12/15/17 11:42am

Why would a 1 ton 3500 be squatting with a pup up? Don't get that. Your camper weight has to be about what mine is (2200 pounds) wet (no gear just propane and water). Mine never squatted the truck at all. Even the overload leaf is 4" away from the perch block. Granted I have air bags but that is with only 5 pounds in the bag, where they are at rest (no load) all the time.

After looking at the Timbren (aka: rubber ride). I don't think you'll be very happy with the unladen ride. They look to me to be a hard riding alternative when empty. Your kidneys, not mine....lol

I believe I'd go with max inflation in the rear tires for starters, then air lift bags (like I have) and then a sway bar. One thing about air bags is, when empty you can deflate them for the OEM ride and when loaded, you can air them up to level and and increase the capacity and they reduce sway.

Your choice however.

Kind of puzzled about your suspension and it sagging. Never had that issue with my Ford at all. Really, not even with the Lance in the bed, did the truck squat much. Maybe an inch or 2 at most.

Sit in with the Palomino is maybe 1/2" at most. Could be I have a stouter suspension than you do, not sure.

I think the Timbrens are a mistake but again, it's your money and your kidneys, not mine.


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