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ADOR

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Posted: 05/26/16 12:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Same thing happened to me. I have my Class C for 3 months now. When we did the PDI, NO ONE told me about the air bags. I only noticed them when I had my metal valves installed last Saturday. I looked around the inside bottom storage units and found one air valve on each side. One had 5PSI, the other ZERO. I inflated both to 70 PSI as indicated on the air bag manufacturer's manual. I have not taken it out for a ride yet.

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My unit has a set of air bags from the factory that I didn't know were there. I purchased it used and also thought it rode roughish over some roads. I found the air valves one day in the cabinet on the drivers side in front of the wheels stuck in a corner that was hard to see. I put a air gauge on them and found zero reading. Put 40 lbs of air in and went for a ride, what a difference. Added another 5 lbs and drove it again, even better. So since your unit has no air i would suggest a set of air shocks to soften the ride.


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klutchdust wrote:

I don't know how to do links but this is what I did .

> Koni FSD shocks installed (updates)

do a search on this forum and see if it could help you, it sure did change my ride dramatically...



WOW ... just back from first long trip since installing the Koni FSDs ... DRAMATIC favorable
improvement in both harshness over bumps, and in overall responsiveness ... do it!



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sometimes with #14 Racecar (18' KwikLoad Rollback)
sometimes with two gaited horses (Featherlite 9407)
sometimes just us camping with our dogs


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Healeyman wrote:

Rob,

Our first RV was a 22' Four Winds on a Chevy 3500 (1 Ton) truck chassis.

When we first got it, the ride was like yours, TERRIBLE!!! We actually had silverware bounce out of the drawer and broke glassware in the cabinet.

One day, I crawled underneath and looked at the spring stack on the rear axle.

The 13 leaves of the spring stack were absolutely FLAT. There was NO arch in the springs. When striking a bump, the rear axle could NOT move UP to absorb the blow.

The air in the rear tires was the ONLY suspension that there was. The axle housing was still 2 inches from the rubber bump stops (POOR design).

I ordered a set of 5,000 lb. capacity Air-Lift air bags (about $200) and installed them myself in a couple of hours. I didn't even have to jack up the body to get them installed. I ran the air inlet tubes to a storage bay.

When I added 55 pounds of air (about 1/2 full) the body actually rose up 1-1/2 inches. Now I had 1-1/2 inches of Tire, spring, and air bag travel.

The bags made it an ENTIRELY new RV. It was wonderful!

Later on, I added Bilstein shocks to the FRONT in order to stabilize and eliminate the "porpoising" on that end.

In the end, the ride was FANTACTIC!!! The ride was almost as good as that of my 3-seat GMC Suburban.

When we upgaded to a 28 ft. Coachmen Freelander, it came with Air-Lift air bags installed at the factory. I have never had to add air to them to use them.

I suggest that you or a shop-guy look at the rear spring stack to see whether or not you have any, or adequate, rear axle UP-travel.

Tim
Healeyman Tim,

Funny, I have the opposite story with air bags. The more air I put into them, the stiffer the suspension became. The less air, the softer the ride, but the worse the handling. Maybe your story is the opposite of mine because of the way your leaf springs were positioned.

I considered Sulastic Shackles for our E350 because we too could benefit from a softer ride. (Everyone could, right?) They are made for an E350/E450 motor home. I liked their bolt-on simplistic approach. I just never could justify the ~$400 cost given our ride is not all that rough.

I have always wondered if a small motor home built on an E450 which suffers from an extremely rough ride, could be taken to a specialty shop and have a leaf spring or two removed to bring the chassis load rating closer to the actual load to get a softer ride.


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Posted: 06/28/16 10:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have small light 24 on E450 and looking at the way it sits, I don't think I want to change anything. It certainly does not ride high in the rear. Ride is not extremely rough. It's not that great on poorly paved surfaces, but tolerable. There are some terrible roads which would give a poor ride on almost anything. On smoother roads (majority) it is fine. For me the handling was a far bigger concern than the ride.

If I was to address the ride, I'd probably start with the bushings in the rear. Something to reduce transmitted harshness. Also rolling around with 20 PSI needless extra air pressure in the front tires degrades ride. But I think the front suspension is better isolated from a ride standpoint than the rear.





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Posted: 06/28/16 01:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Have a 2001 E450 with a 23 foot Coachhouse. Terrible ride originally. First - - replaced ENTIRE rear leaf spring suspension with a Reyco Granning air suspension (real thing - - not just little air bags like Firestone etc). Then bought Koni shocks - - before the FSD was available for this chassis. Still rough so sent shocks back to Koni for revalving. Still not happy but finally Koni made FSD for this chassis so ordered and installed them. Quite decent ride and handling now. Info in greater detail if you email me at [email protected]


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I have the Firestone airbags on my E3500 Chevy chassis. I measured the bumper height before loading and then adjust the airbags after loaded to bring it back to the measured height. I dont think it gives me any softer a ride but it stops the tail from dragging in swales and helps stability in turns.
I think soft ride is a very relative term when applied to a 1 or 1.5 ton truck on a rough road loaded with breakable items. I just wish people would not get so upset with me when I slow down on those sections.


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