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IAMICHABOD

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Posted: 04/04/18 10:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

sachilles,while I can't help you out on the trailer brake controller,mine is on a Chevy Chassis,I am sure that one of our Forum Members can help you out.

Until then I would like to welcome you to the Former Rental Owners Club,you will be # 100 !!!!!! [image]
I see that disc01971(#88) has given you some tips that may be helpful.

Please come on back and let us all know how it all went and share your thoughts and any thing else that would be of help to others.

Congratulations,# 100 and Good Luck and have a safe journey.


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disc01971 wrote:

Hope you planned on staying in town a couple days.. Theres no way anybody should drive the RV off the lot until everything is fixed. I was lucky to be 2hrs away, and took them a week to fix my to do list. Read through the threads, once its off the lot you'll have hard time getting "warranty" items fixed. They will run you through hoops, take as much time as they want before getting to you. Theres 1 guy that approves any work once its off the lot. The local dealership location can pretty much do whatever you ask them, long as you tell them its got to be fixed before singing paperwork (besides deposit) and leaving. We had 8k worth of work done (rig.pinion, exhaust manafold/bolts, front windshield, toilet, and some random repairs like busted faucet and cabinet hinges. Even had the seller himself on a ladder caulking entire RV !!! The RV we got, was the best of 4 on the lot..

I'm prepared to stay in town. I have gazillion marriot points, and I can work remotely if necessary. My wife can also work remotely, and my son is on vacation that week. That's why I plan to arrive on a monday. I travel a lot for work, so I'm prepared to be on the road for a while if necessary. However, if I know it will be a long while, I'll probably just fly back home and pick up later, if a few days we'll just go explore washington DC.
In any case we are prepared to walk away if it's a total dog.
Adventure is out there........right?!

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disc01971 wrote:

Hope you planned on staying in town a couple days.. Theres no way anybody should drive the RV off the lot until everything is fixed. I was lucky to be 2hrs away, and took them a week to fix my to do list. Read through the threads, once its off the lot you'll have hard time getting "warranty" items fixed. They will run you through hoops, take as much time as they want before getting to you. Theres 1 guy that approves any work once its off the lot. The local dealership location can pretty much do whatever you ask them, long as you tell them its got to be fixed before singing paperwork (besides deposit) and leaving. We had 8k worth of work done (rig.pinion, exhaust manafold/bolts, front windshield, toilet, and some random repairs like busted faucet and cabinet hinges. Even had the seller himself on a ladder caulking entire RV !!! The RV we got, was the best of 4 on the lot..

My bet is the exhaust manifold bolts took the longest. What was wrong with the ring and pinion? Was it just a leaky pinion seal?

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Had a nasty grinding noise, so they (local ford fleet center) drained rear end and was full of metal shavings. Once everything got straitened out and added new Kona shocks the rv has been great. We had to replace fridge, but no other issues in 20k miles in 12 months. Getting new rear tires this week, for summer of another Seattle to Florida and between trip...

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Sales experience has been interesting thus far. My spidey sense has been tingling.

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sachilles wrote:

Sales experience has been interesting thus far. My spidey sense has been tingling.


I have found some amazing sales people but they are in the minority then there are those that make you want to run [emoticon] Hope all goes well!


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So I did in fact bring my unit home on April 6th. I'm the proud owner of a Majestic 28A from Calgary and it lives up In Edmonton and you guys aptly gave it Unit #99, get it? [emoticon]

Anyway, I flew in to pick it up and #99 it was ready to go. I went over it pretty closely and found several items that needed work and they complied right away. I asked to borrow their shop ladder and walked around on the roof inspecting seams, etc and it needed a little work which they fixed on the spot. #99 needed to pass a out of province inspection before I could register it in Alberta and a lot of things were done to make it comply. The short list was 6 new tires, 4 new shocks, Front & rear brakes, stabilizer bushings, an outer tie rod end, new spark plugs, exhaust manifold studs/bolts, oil change, transmission oil change and a new windshield. The mechanical work was done at a 3rd party facility and the coach refurbishment happened right at Cruise Canada in Calgary.

The coach part is where the downfall was as there were a lot of things like loose "T" moldings, chipped boards, globs of silicon everywhere, and it was overall pretty dirty inside. The good things they did was replace the sofa, Fridge shelves, stove grates, picnic table, Dinette table and told me they tested all the on-board systems. I found lots of debris in places that were probably there since 2013! I also asked them since my first camping trip was 6 weeks away would they still honor anything I found wrong since it's still below zero here with no hope of me trying the tanks and systems until then, they assured me I would be looked after. I read lots of warnings on this thread and am treading cautiously here but they were indeed sincere and have given me no reason to doubt them. CC also did a very poor job with a fiberglass repair on the exterior and it will have to be redone properly done when weather permits.

The drive home was interesting as it took about 45 min for the first issue to appear, the front roof vent kept opening on it's own and eventually the rear started doing the same thing. I had to pull over several times in a 3 hour drive home to close them. I also noticed a shudder in gears 3,4 & 5 (in town only) that seems to smooth out at about 60 MPH, I notified CC and they asked me to phone the warranty hotline ASAP. I found this odd since I never got to test drive this unit and it supposedly went through a rigorous inspection at a 3rd party service center. I'm not sure where to go with this but as soon as it's warm out I'll be under it checking U-Joints and Steady Bearings. The fuel economy on the way home travelling @ 65 MPH (110 kph) was 9.4 MPG (25L/100 KM) and I drove it around in town for 60 miles (100 Km) and it was getting 8.7 MPG (27L/100 KM) which was pretty good in my eyes.

I have since gone over it pretty thoroughly at home and found a handful of piddly things wrong and a damaged zipper on a dining seat bottom. I'll hit them up with my defect list before 30 days comes around. I've washed and cleaned the interior properly, cleaned, polished and resealed the floors and looked after many loose doors, rattles and door pulls.

Overall I'm pretty happy for the price I paid and in reality can easily afford to spend another $5K in repairs before I would say it wasn't worth the purchase. I pretty much bought it for $25,000 less than a comparable unit from Craiglist or a dealer.

Next on the list will be getting it ready for the TOAD and installing a backup camera along with some decorator touches to keep the wife happy.

Stay tuned and thanks a lot for the great forum.

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* This post was edited 04/16/18 03:13pm by Canuck_Hauler *

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Canuck_Hauler how did you get a day without snow???? Glad you had a safe trip home. All units new or used usually have little things that need to be done. Sounds like you had a better experience with CC Calgary than I had, but I have been told the salesperson that I dealt with is "no longer employed by CC". Honestly it was not so much anything big with the unit I got, it was just a lot of little things he told me were done then I find out they were not to not to 100%.

Funniest thing was when I got up on the roof when I got home and found Dicor on EVERYTHING. The sealed the bathroom fan cover so it would not open, they put Dicor in places that it should never had gone like on the housing for the conditioner at each screw hole. Must get paid by the number of tubes that they use.

I never dealt with a warranty repair but I have been told they are good, but that only applies to the drive train. Other things are not covered so it is up to the generosity of the person that you deal with. DO call ASAP as the sooner that you call the less they can say that you did it.

I also bought with the idea that if anything was wrong that I had saved enough that I could pay to fix it. One of my first stops was to a private mechanic that I know (not a dealership or national chain), he had one of his guys go over the unit completely. Checked everything, replaced a few things that were not 100% but nothing big. He did not like was the alignment, said overall it was okay but it was still not 100%. Recommended that be done right away. I did find after the alignment and redoing the tire pressures to what I wanted it drove so much better, was not bad before but after it was great! He also recommended a tune up and I had that done a few month later and that gave me a lot more confidence in the engine being as close to tuned as a used unit can be.

One thing that amazes me is how the unit is assembled. I have seen million dollar motor homes that are not close to these units. I was going to do some major changes when I got it to suit me more as how I use it and I did not as the way they built it was so good I did not want to do any major cutting and replacing just for little improvements.

Hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of your unit!

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Posted: 04/18/18 05:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Canuck_Hauler,#99 Thanks for the consise write up on your experience on your purchase and how the problems were handled,I am sure that this
will help others and give them a road map of what to look for when they go shopping.

A hint for the roof vents opening,if you would put vent covers over them, vent covers like the MaxxAir on each vent will eliminate the problem,as a bonus you can leave them open in any weather and when driving. also replace the the Vent seal this will also help in sealing the vent lid to the vent edge and make a better seal and do away with any leaking when closed.

The pictures were a nice touch, I like your traveling companion,I always like to see members rigs.
We will stay tuned to see what comes up next.
Again thanks for the write up and congratulations on your new RV.

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Our is home and in our driveway, after the Virginia to Vermont trek which is about 10 hours.
Quite happy with the purchase.
The RV was inside so I could inspect most everything in comfort. Nice epoxy floor in the shop so I could roll around underneath and look at stuff.
Tires were new. Rears dated at the end of 2016, fronts 2017. Mechanically decent. After dealing with the horrendous roads in PA, I will likely need an alignment if if it didn't need one already!! Awful roads. Everything else was smooth sailing. Mechanically very good.
The house part, definitely isn't new but was in good shape. Little nitpicky things like chips in the formica counter tops. Nothing major. The tan plastic and upholstery in the cab shows it's age a bit. We'll see what some tuff stuff cleaner and some other cleaners might do. It's not awful...but noticeable compared to a new unit. To be clear it wasn't dirty really, but tan shows ground in dirt a bit more than grey.
All seems to work as intended. Camped over night at wal-mart in PA. Bed is more comfortable than I expected. Wife and son love it. Unit was clean on arrival. Test drive revealed a few rattles, that were fixed once back at the shop. I was provided with a ladder to look at the roof. All seemed in good shape. We encountered rain...and snow on our drive back. No apparent leaks, and no musty smells.
Outside was clean. I small ding was noticeable in the front bumper under certain light. Small chips in paint here and there. Rear bumper was straight(can't say the same for most of the rental units on the lot).

Underneath was pretty good. Looked like a new steering stabilizer was installed. Rear shocks also looked newish. Fronts had been in place a while. Looked like some new hardware on the generator mounting brackets.
314 indicated hours on the generator. House battery was good.

So long story short. We like it. We are happy with what we got, for the money we paid. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it cross country tomorrow. Very minor cosmetic issues that can't be seen 20 ft away, but if you are searching them out, you could find them. Salesman was knowledgeable about the house systems, but less so on the van systems. He was man enough to say he didn't know the answer, rather than make up stuff like some salespeople like to do.

Overall positive. I'll have another look over underneath as the PA roads were that bad...if everything is still good, then I think the RV can take any abuse.

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