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bghouse

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Before I put this to rest - I need to make sure I've given the Cruise America model a fair analysis. There are currently a couple things that make me pause, and I need to understand if there are potential solutions that I can live with - or move off CA for good.

1.) The single battery vs dual battery. I'm concerned that in the future if I want to add solar and an inverter that the Cruise America 23A will not allow it. Are there other options for the battery (even if it costs more) to be able to add the second one somewhere? Hanging bracket under the coach? Somewhere inside with Lithium maybe? I don't plan to boondock immediately - I'll be at campgrounds. Anything else that the single battery limits me on? Can I still run A/C or the microwave on shore power?

2.) Backup camera. I read somewhere that someone tried to install a backup camera on the Cruise America coach and couldn't run the wires, so had to go wireless - but the wireless was buggy and cut out. Is this true? A backup camera is high on my list for safety as a new driver.

3.) Anything else that is non standard that would be critical to know? Am I limited in what can be install on the roof? Does the hardwired electric cord cause any "gotchas". Stuff like that.

4.) Do the CA rigs have the black water flush like the Coachmen Leprechaun I've been looking at with El Monte RV?

Hopefully some of the folks that bought from Cruise America will be able to let me know if I'm worrying for nothing. The pricing difference for me is substantial, even when I add back things like the awning. Since the difference is roughly 5 months of living expenses on the road - I really need to make sure I'm giving the CA rig a fair evalution.

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bghouse wrote:

Before I put this to rest - I need to make sure I've given the Cruise America model a fair analysis. There are currently a couple things that make me pause, and I need to understand if there are potential solutions that I can live with - or move off CA for good.

1.) The single battery vs dual battery. I'm concerned that in the future if I want to add solar and an inverter that the Cruise America 23A will not allow it. Are there other options for the battery (even if it costs more) to be able to add the second one somewhere? Hanging bracket under the coach? Somewhere inside with Lithium maybe? I don't plan to boondock immediately - I'll be at campgrounds. Anything else that the single battery limits me on? Can I still run A/C or the microwave on shore power?

2.) Backup camera. I read somewhere that someone tried to install a backup camera on the Cruise America coach and couldn't run the wires, so had to go wireless - but the wireless was buggy and cut out. Is this true? A backup camera is high on my list for safety as a new driver.

3.) Anything else that is non standard that would be critical to know? Am I limited in what can be install on the roof? Does the hardwired electric cord cause any "gotchas". Stuff like that.

4.) Do the CA rigs have the black water flush like the Coachmen Leprechaun I've been looking at with El Monte RV?

Hopefully some of the folks that bought from Cruise America will be able to let me know if I'm worrying for nothing. The pricing difference for me is substantial, even when I add back things like the awning. Since the difference is roughly 5 months of living expenses on the road - I really need to make sure I'm giving the CA rig a fair evalution.


You don't say if you have a generator or not. My 19G does not have one so I used the space for a custom battery tray that holds 4 6V easily. Plus I have extra space and space for a 12V if I wanted one.

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Ah - thanks Photomike... Looking at the Cruise America website, the 23A does have a generator.

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Ive got an older 23a. Ive got 2 batteries in it one outside in the normal spot and 1 under the bed both agm 400ah. Did a full solar setup 2 panels. 3000 watt full sine. Huge welding cables ran it down near the shower vent. Morningstar ts45 with temp sensor and remote panel to my door entry. Works awesome! Runs everything but ac microwave and fridge.

Never without power i boondock exclusively.

Convertor is always turned off and only use power or genset for ac and convection microwave.

Flush is not on them and not needed. I use a camco swizel stick for sensor cleaning u can put a tank flush on but u have to drill the tank. Reviews arent that hot on them for me to poke a hole in the tank.

I anchored my panels with lags into the roof with plenty of dicor same procedure as roof vents non issue. I used eterna bond for cable runs to the shower vent nothing had moved since installation.

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bghouse, do you recall that I wrote a week or two ago to your question about adding a second battery?


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bghouse, do you recall that I wrote a week or two ago to your question about adding a second battery?


Ugh, Snowman9000 - no, I totally forgot. Where is my brain these days - lol. I'll make some coffee and go backwards through the thread to find that again, thank you.

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craz z wrote:

Ive got an older 23a. Ive got 2 batteries in it one outside in the normal spot and 1 under the bed both agm 400ah. Did a full solar setup 2 panels. 3000 watt full sine. Huge welding cables ran it down near the shower vent. Morningstar ts45 with temp sensor and remote panel to my door entry. Works awesome! Runs everything but ac microwave and fridge.

Never without power i boondock exclusively.

Convertor is always turned off and only use power or genset for ac and convection microwave.

Flush is not on them and not needed. I use a camco swizel stick for sensor cleaning u can put a tank flush on but u have to drill the tank. Reviews arent that hot on them for me to poke a hole in the tank.

I anchored my panels with lags into the roof with plenty of dicor same procedure as roof vents non issue. I used eterna bond for cable runs to the shower vent nothing had moved since installation.


Thank you!

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bghouse wrote:

Before I put this to rest - I need to make sure I've given the Cruise America model a fair analysis. There are currently a couple things that make me pause, and I need to understand if there are potential solutions that I can live with - or move off CA for good.

1.) The single battery vs dual battery. I'm concerned that in the future if I want to add solar and an inverter that the Cruise America 23A will not allow it. Are there other options for the battery (even if it costs more) to be able to add the second one somewhere? Hanging bracket under the coach? Somewhere inside with Lithium maybe? I don't plan to boondock immediately - I'll be at campgrounds. Anything else that the single battery limits me on? Can I still run A/C or the microwave on shore power?

2.) Backup camera. I read somewhere that someone tried to install a backup camera on the Cruise America coach and couldn't run the wires, so had to go wireless - but the wireless was buggy and cut out. Is this true? A backup camera is high on my list for safety as a new driver.

3.) Anything else that is non standard that would be critical to know? Am I limited in what can be install on the roof? Does the hardwired electric cord cause any "gotchas". Stuff like that.

4.) Do the CA rigs have the black water flush like the Coachmen Leprechaun I've been looking at with El Monte RV?

Hopefully some of the folks that bought from Cruise America will be able to let me know if I'm worrying for nothing. The pricing difference for me is substantial, even when I add back things like the awning. Since the difference is roughly 5 months of living expenses on the road - I really need to make sure I'm giving the CA rig a fair evalution.


My 2012 23A has a small solar panel installed on top of the AC unit. They started using what appears to be trickle charging for the house battery. It seems to keep the house battery topped off. The panel monitor has a light indicating the solar panel is generating power.
I have a single 12V house battery and thinking of purchasing a portable 50 or 100W suitcase solar panel that attaches directly to the battery, or replace the small solar panel with a larger one.
I don't use a television or excessive electronic devices while traveling, so I don't need much. The only thing I need is power for my CPAP machine.

CA installed my awning for $800 (CA also gave me a $1000 discount for ordering during a spring promotion).

Regarding back up camera. I just had a wired model installed. It is on the rear bumper and the wiring goes under the rig. It was not possible to have a wired camera installed at the top of the rig. I got it done at a local radio installer in my home town. I did have to find one who knew RVs and was willing to do the install. The shop owner has an RV and is very comfortable with RV camera installs.

Also installed a car alarm and activated key fobs for entry. My 23a has electric doors, but only was able to enter by unlocking the door. With key fob, I can unlock/lock from a distance.

When I looked at El Monte rigs, they were a hot mess. Nothing was refurbed and they looked like they just came back from a wretched ride. I liked how CA does the refurb. Granted, it wasn't perfect, but I was pleased with what I eventually ended up with.

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I have a single 12V house battery and thinking of purchasing a portable 50 or 100W suitcase solar panel that attaches directly to the battery, or replace the small solar panel with a larger one.

Regarding back up camera. I just had a wired model installed. It is on the rear bumper and the wiring goes under the rig. It was not possible to have a wired camera installed at the top of the rig.


Thank you 510dogmom - this is helpful. I truly have no idea if I'll even need the dual battery setup any time soon. For the backup camera, why wasn't it possible to be installed at the top of the rig?

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I have a single 12V house battery and thinking of purchasing a portable 50 or 100W suitcase solar panel that attaches directly to the battery, or replace the small solar panel with a larger one.

Regarding back up camera. I just had a wired model installed. It is on the rear bumper and the wiring goes under the rig. It was not possible to have a wired camera installed at the top of the rig.


Thank you 510dogmom - this is helpful. I truly have no idea if I'll even need the dual battery setup any time soon. For the backup camera, why wasn't it possible to be installed at the top of the rig?


The walls are solid and thick. There is no way you can run wires down to under the carriage without seeing the wiring inside the RV or down the back or side of the RV. CA makes their rigs as dummy proof as possible and as unbreakable as possible. That is one of the main reasons I like my CA 23A, I have a history with RVs, but that was with my ex-husband. This is MY first solo rig and I'm learning by hands on. I need a rig that will be as forgiving as possible with my blunders and errors. [emoticon]

Thinking about it, if I decide to upgrade my solar power, If I can, I will upgrade the panel that is already on the rig.

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