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We worked in the industry from 2007 to this past month and yes, this is common. How you are treated as a gate guard, depends on how the energy lease is written. On some properties we were NOT parked on lease land and they could not search our RV, but that is the exception. Every energy company without exception has the right and do execute searches, mostly when they have had reports of a problem, but some do it on a random basis.
Is it legal, yes, as you are working on their property or lease and the contract between the gate guard company that you work for and the energy company, will have that clause written into it. If this bothers you, then you have a couple of choices, do not work in the industry or expect a search and abide by the rules.
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if you are at a gate you have agreed to such a search (at least in their opinion) they WILL FIRE YOU if you refuse. some use dogs some do not they went thru every drawer cabinet you name it.
looking for drugs-firearms-alcohol
i know it is happening i want to find out how common it is.
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the meaning of right and legal has changed in my lifetime, it no longer takes into account, personal privacy or do unto others as you would have them do unto you or the fact that there is no known issue to be delt with. you no longer have to be creating a problem to be suspect. and it aint going to get better.
i know of three seaches ALL had a rig on the pad.
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Ajones42
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We have heard of RVs being searched, we know for a fact of only one instance in the past 2 years of gg'ing. It does happen but not often. It may be used purposely to rid the GG company of a couple they want gone anyway.
The DW and I have discussed it at length and have decided we will NOT submit to any warrantless search of the inside of the RV or our personal vehicle. That applies to working a rig or just out in the world in general. If it costs us an assignment/job so be it.
We quit one company when they required us to sign a ridiculous NDA. Their loss; not ours.
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Blondie Girl
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We feel the same way about searching our RV.. We have nothing illegal,but I do not want a stranger going through my personal things. We were told by the company saftey man a few months ago that they might be conducting searches at the rig. We told him how we felt about the searches and he told us their company rarely searches the gate guard's RV unless there is a cause to do so.
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it's funny that you would imply WE were searched for a reason, we are on the companies good side the chesapeake people love us, our last 2 co men asked us to move with them and were very disapointed when we would not go. on jan15 we told our gate guard co we were taking time off and want to be replaced on the 1st of feb. (we have been on a gate 8 months with no relief) they said they would and asked if we would be coming back to work for them. the chesapeake exect's told us that they have only done random searches. i know of NO searches done by a GATE GUARD CO.
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The Texan
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They stated what they were told be "a company man" and you slam them for their response......IMO, that was wrong. We have seen a GG company initiate a search on two separate occasions, so it is done. We are also aware of and know people that were searched or told they were going to be searched with 4 different companies. The 3 worst for conducting searches are Chesapeake, Pioneer & Talisman.
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slam them??????
how else could it be interpeted he informed us that it rarely (rarely as in almost never) happens unless "there is cause to do so". i know it was a quote from his supper.
"We have seen a GG company initiate a search on two separate occasions, so it is done. We are also aware of and know people that were searched or told they were going to be searched with 4 different companies. The 3 worst for conducting searches are Chesapeake, Pioneer & Talisman."
it would have been nice if you would have stated this earlier. that is an answer to my originaL question.
i did not say it does not happen i said "i know of NO searches done by a GATE GUARD CO"
had you stated this sooner i would not have been ignorant of it taking place!
AND after all i was only following in your footsteps. how many times have YOU sharply told posters to read the 115 pages of gate guard info. so you do not have to answer their question.
why if you do not want to answer their question then why do you just NOT!. not every one has the time to read thru 115 pages of dribble to hopefully find out what they want to know.
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The Texan
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Well gatekeepers, you just pushed me to a decision. If anyone wants info of any kind, they are going to have to find it on their own. This used to be friendly group that worked in the gate guard profession, but it has been taken down to the gutter by many who think that any answer not to their liking is trash. Well, from this point forward, find your answer where ever you can.
For those that I have helped over the years and want answers, you have my email from earlier and I will respond by email, but that is it.
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Ajones42
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I think I will excuse myself from this thread as well. The 'pay' does not make it worthwhile.
FWIW, If Bob the Texan's experience is anything like mine, I get about 20 emails a week from folks asking the MOST BASIC of questions about gate guarding which can be found in MERE SECONDS using the search feature here or on Google. I dutifully and politely reply--sometimes running to several paragraphs. About 50% of the time I receive a thank you in reply. Many times over I get a combative reply which questions the validity of my answer to their question. My tolerance of rude behavior has never been very high and lessens as I grow older.
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