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jimmyfred

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waywardwinds ,

Several GG companies have recently suggested that the activities of their guards not be public knowledge . If you have specific questions , privately email or pm individuals .

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............Knowledge is power when it comes too publishing the level of pay , in general , without necessarily posting explicit pay levels specific too any one company !
............The more knowledge beginning GG's have the better they will fare when it comes too choosing which companies too work for !!! , jf


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The Texan wrote:

H345 wrote:

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waywardwinds ,

Several GG companies have recently suggested that the activities of their guards not be public knowledge . If you have specific questions , privately email or pm individuals .

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LOL...No suggestion about it. GGS threatened them with their job if they posted any info on a public forum and made them sign a Non-disclosure statement. The rest of us are still here and still posting, just not any GGS employees.....[emoticon]

By the way, GGS is now the lowest paying gate guard company in Texas. ALL of the others have increased their pay.



GGS actually went so far as to contact some of the guards with active blogs via telephone and ask them to remove content. Must have worked because the gate guard blogs have all but disappeared.

In all fairness, some of the blogs were disclosing way too much information about their site and what the oil companies were doing. Not the way to do business in the oil patch.


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does sitewatch pay by w-2 or 1099?

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mimi55 wrote:

does sitewatch pay by w-2 or 1099?
GGS, Loma and J&G by 1099. SiteWatch, Timekeepers and all others that I am aware of, by W-2. However, please talk to a tax attorney that is familiar with the ongoing law suit, prior to going with one of the companies that pay by 1099. Tax implications are being generated by the Federal law suit as how it may impact those being paid by 1099, on the day it is settled, are starting to surface. I won't go into all of what we were told, but just make sure, in your mind, you are ready for all possible IRS scenarios and a whopper of a tax bill.


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I have had an Independent Contracting business as a part-time job for several years and have always been paid by 1099. The IRS has never questioned my deductions or my tax returns. Most of the work I did was just as it is with GGS..with me actually being a sub-contractor and doing the work to their specifications.
I really don't think there is anything to worry about, but it could benefit you to consult with a tax consultant.

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Blondie Girl wrote:

I have had an Independent Contracting business as a part-time job for several years and have always been paid by 1099. The IRS has never questioned my deductions or my tax returns. Most of the work I did was just as it is with GGS..with me actually being a sub-contractor and doing the work to their specifications.
I really don't think there is anything to worry about, but it could benefit you to consult with a tax consultant.
Were you working for a company that was involved in a MULTI million dollar law suit with the Feds over the independent contracting status?? That is what is starting to rear its ugly head and the lawyer we talked to, went to the Feds about the consequences and that is why I am saying, be VERY careful.......

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GGS, Loma and J&G by 1099. SiteWatch, Timekeepers and all others that I am aware of, by W-2. However, please talk to a tax attorney that is familiar with the ongoing law suit, prior to going with one of the companies that pay by 1099. Tax implications are being generated by the Federal law suit as how it may impact those being paid by 1099, on the day it is settled, are starting to surface. I won't go into all of what we were told, but just make sure, in your mind, you are ready for all possible IRS scenarios and a whopper of a tax bill.

Texan, could you PM me this. Thanks The main problem for us is only one of us can get paid.

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Even if they term us as employees, we still would be able to use the same tax deductions, so there shouldn't be a difference. When we file with the 1099 we are responsible for the self-employment taxes, so some of that should be refunded if we have to go back and re-file our previous years.
I was a Corporate Tax Accountant in my career, but I don't know much about personal taxes, just what I research for my own tax return.
Hopefully, everything will come out OK. If not, we'll just have to deal with it. There will thousands of people's tax returns affected with all the people that have worked for GGS through the years.
That lawsuit may never be resolved in our lifetime....

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mimi55 wrote:

GGS, Loma and J&G by 1099. SiteWatch, Timekeepers and all others that I am aware of, by W-2. However, please talk to a tax attorney that is familiar with the ongoing law suit, prior to going with one of the companies that pay by 1099. Tax implications are being generated by the Federal law suit as how it may impact those being paid by 1099, on the day it is settled, are starting to surface. I won't go into all of what we were told, but just make sure, in your mind, you are ready for all possible IRS scenarios and a whopper of a tax bill.

Texan, could you PM me this. Thanks The main problem for us is only one of us can get paid.


One needs to be careful when joining a co. that is paying via 1099. Read the agreement or contract to ensure that it really meets the requirements to classify one as an Independent Contractor. We have our own LLC and joined Loma as such. However we found that their agreement and other required paperwork really was more employee oriented than IC. Had our accountant and an attorney review said paperwork and the consensus was that it wouldn't hold up under Federal or State investigation, so we terminated our agreement as we weren't going to jeopardize our LLC.

We now work for a company as employees at a higher wage than Loma was paying.

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Posted: 10/05/12 09:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So, you are no longer using your LLC for gate-guarding? Are You termed as individual employees of their company?

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