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Good review and procedure for cleaning carb jets on Honda. However, how do you get the jet out if it does not "fall" out once the threaded plug is removed. I gently tried to use a welding tip cleaner to get it to drop out.........no success. Obviously you need to be careful not to disrupt the orifice in the jet.
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HELP -- I removed eco throttle control before reading this post and sticky!
How else are you going to soak the carb!!? That thing has to come off, of course. I even have an online manual - after hours of searching -- and it mentions nothing about how that blasted thing goes back on!
http://issuu.com/eacf/docs/honda-eu1000i-service-manual
ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!
HELP!!!!
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Almostthere wrote:Good review and procedure for cleaning carb jets on Honda. However, how do you get the jet out if it does not "fall" out once the threaded plug is removed. I gently tried to use a welding tip cleaner to get it to drop out.........no success. Obviously you need to be careful not to disrupt the orifice in the jet.
quote=tomatillo on 07/02/11 01:39am
HELP -- I removed eco throttle control before reading this post and sticky!
How else are you going to soak the carb!!? That thing has to come off, of course. I even have an online manual - after hours of searching -- and it mentions nothing about how that blasted thing goes back on!
I used my compressed air, and blew into the various fuel pickup holes in the float bowl. I blocked the various other fuel outlets in the venturi area with my hand. The Jet popped out. Be careful when you do this...You could loose the jet.
I did not soak my carb. I just used spray carb cleaner and brake cleaner.
As for the re-install of the throttle control I just put it back on.
If you are still having trouble maybe someone can help ya...
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This is exactly why this RV site is so valuable. Cant thank you enough Ron. Im curious, are you a mechanic, did you learn this thru trial and error or is there a book that helped you?
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I bought a well-used one of these last year. I actually was trying to take it completely apart to clean it (very dirty) but one of the long bolts on the bottom just spins the nut pressed into the plastic, so I gave up (any suggestions on breaking that free?). Happened upon this great write-up and decided to at least check out the carb.
Use it a few times camping with a couple problems. Shut off once with the low oil light on ... did not seem low, but added a bit and have since changed it and not had this happen again (may have just been too dirty?).
And it seems to surge/lope? when I turn the Eco on. I saw mention of this here a couple times, but no real explanation for cause and solution.
So pulled the carb apart today and was actually surprised by how clean the carb was considering how dirty the rest it. Air filter was still clean from a few months ago. I found the easiest way to get the emulsion tube out is to push it down from the venturi and then a couple taps into my hand. Looked clean, but sprayed it down with carb cleaner and air anyway.
First time I put it together found I had the bowl on backwards (how is it not marked?)
Second time I put it together and would not start ... realized I forgot to hook the fuel line back up ... oops.
Third time I put it together, started after 2-3 pulls.
Put it on Eco and still have the surging. I can see the black tab moving back and forth and I am not even sure it is making contact with the black throttle screw. With a screw driver I held the tab to the left and the idle came way down when I release it the rpm jumped WAY up. When I put the screw driver between the screw and tab the rpms were still surging a bit at the higher RPMs. When I turn the Eco off I think I can barely hear a little surging still.
Is the throttle electronic?
What is causing the surging? Would a leaking gasket (although they looked fine)? My float bowl o-ring was pretty flat (probably should replace it) ... could that be the problem?
I do not think I noticed a difference between the running before and after my cleaning ... so wondering if there is still something I am over looking.
I have taken apart a few ATV and MC carbs, but this electronic Eco thing is new to me.
Also, what is that tiny screw with the tab on it that you can only turn about 1/4 turn behind the black throttle(?) screw?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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I don't have a Honda generator, but I have dealt with those poorly designed nuts in plastic before. If you can gain access to it, try wedging a small jewelers type screwdriver in alongside the nut. Put some epoxy on the nut when you reassemble to help keep it from happening again.
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popeye59 wrote:I don't have a Honda generator, but I have dealt with those poorly designed nuts in plastic before. If you can gain access to it, try wedging a small jewelers type screwdriver in alongside the nut. Put some epoxy on the nut when you reassemble to help keep it from happening again.
Unfortunately, it is pretty rounded at this point. I have managed to jam 2 screw drivers in there and it still spins ... of course the nut is buried deep in a hole making it impossible to just grab with pliers or something. Probably will not mess with it before our next trip, but I may try again next month
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I wanted to write in reference to EU2000 generators. I purchased the EU2000 and companion in August. Just in time for the hurricane and no lights for 3 days. The both performed beautifully. After the storm, I let them sit for two months. I went to start them this week and they wouldn't start. I came to RV net and found this thread. I cleaned the both carbs, changed the fuel. The first started right up, the other no such luck.
Today Long Island was 58 degrees, perfect weather for troubleshooting the generator. I pulled the carb again and sprayed the sh*t out of it. Put it back together nothing. Pulled the carb spray cleaner and compressed air, put it back together nothing. I picked up the gennie and held it in front of my French doors and was going to throw it through. Cooler heads prevailed.
I did a search and saw that EU2000i gennies are notorious for stuck intake valves. Pulled the plug put in my finger pulled the cord, NO COMPRESION!! Time to split the case and pull the valve cover on my 4 month old gennie. Lo and behold the intake valve is frozen. I pulled the rocker and started tapping the valve with a punch. I got it to start moving, sprayed it with carb cleaner and kept working it until it moved freely. Put ti all back together. Pulled the cord, started one pull!! Yahoo--I wanted everyone to know this in case they came across the same problems after cleaning the carb..
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haven't heard about any intake valve issue with the Yamaha though.
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scootsk wrote:I wanted to write in reference to EU2000 generators. I purchased the EU2000 and companion in August. Just in time for the hurricane and no lights for 3 days. The both performed beautifully. After the storm, I let them sit for two months. I went to start them this week and they wouldn't start. I came to RV net and found this thread. I cleaned the both carbs, changed the fuel. The first started right up, the other no such luck.
Today Long Island was 58 degrees, perfect weather for troubleshooting the generator. I pulled the carb again and sprayed the sh*t out of it. Put it back together nothing. Pulled the carb spray cleaner and compressed air, put it back together nothing. I picked up the gennie and held it in front of my French doors and was going to throw it through. Cooler heads prevailed.
I did a search and saw that EU2000i gennies are notorious for stuck intake valves. Pulled the plug put in my finger pulled the cord, NO COMPRESION!! Time to split the case and pull the valve cover on my 4 month old gennie. Lo and behold the intake valve is frozen. I pulled the rocker and started tapping the valve with a punch. I got it to start moving, sprayed it with carb cleaner and kept working it until it moved freely. Put ti all back together. Pulled the cord, started one pull!! Yahoo--I wanted everyone to know this in case they came across the same problems after cleaning the carb..
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