rhagfo

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Greydog 1 wrote: rhagfo wrote: Just paid 3.29 minus a $0.40 per gallon discount !!
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Where was this?
Local Fred Meyer (Kroger) fuel station. I was happy for the $2.89 a gallon, just noticed this morning it dropped another dime currently $3.19 a gallon.
This is home heating season is it not.
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LindsayRichards

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Your $179 lease for a Volt valued $45,000 was half price due to the election and the General Motors political problems. Once the election was over, the rates went back up commensurate for the price of the vehicle. Hard to believe anyone would claim high demand for the Volt. Everybody knows it is a real dog and the American people are not buying them. In your area, almost all of the electricity generation comes from coal. Swapping the tailpipe for the smokestack is all that is being done. It makes little difference for the environment, but it makes the elites feel so good. After the massive electrical failures in Detroit, you may want to rethink an EV anyway.
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tomman58

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LindsayRichards wrote: Your $179 lease for a Volt valued $45,000 was half price due to the election and the General Motors political problems. Once the election was over, the rates went back up commensurate for the price of the vehicle. Hard to believe anyone would claim high demand for the Volt. Everybody knows it is a real dog and the American people are not buying them. In your area, almost all of the electricity generation comes from coal. Swapping the tailpipe for the smokestack is all that is being done. It makes little difference for the environment, but it makes the elites feel so good. After the massive electrical failures in Detroit, you may want to rethink an EV anyway.
What a pathetic bunch of misinformation and plain dribble. Now I remember why I normally don't respond to ignorant rants.
All I'll say is hide and watch! We are walking away from oil and soon we will be running away. Yes, the lease on the Volt doubled and the cost has come down better things are on the way.
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LindsayRichards

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The lease payment is based on the value of the vehicle kinda like the payment on a loan. If you lease a $45,000 BMW or a $45,000 Volt, the lease payments on the Volt were half prior to the election due to the 125 day inventory on the lots. You can call names, but you can't change the facts. Wind and solar are all the way up to 4% of electrical generation capacity nationwide (Much less in Detroit which is mainly coal with crumbling infrastructure as evidenced by today's outages.) That 4% requires massive governmental subsidies and bailouts. Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.
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$2.39 in South Hill, VA
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paulcardoza

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Really? North America is pumping out more oil than ever, which is driving down prices. Walking away? Someone is in fantasy land.......
BTW ---
Last week, just outside of Myrtle Beach
Regular gas - $2.41
Diesel - $3.23
Here in SE MASS this week:
Regular Gas - $2.75
Diesel - $3.80
tomman58 wrote:
We are walking away from oil and soon we will be running away.
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tomman58

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paulcardoza wrote: Really? North America is pumping out more oil than ever, which is driving down prices. Walking away? Someone is in fantasy land.......
BTW ---
Last week, just outside of Myrtle Beach
Regular gas - $2.41
Diesel - $3.23
Here in SE MASS this week:
Regular Gas - $2.75
Diesel - $3.80
tomman58 wrote:
We are walking away from oil and soon we will be running away.
No fantasy to drive from Maryland to Az to Tx to La and am seeing seas of solar panels and more to come as evident in their news. Texas miles of new grid to handle the 1000's of new wind miles. All those NG stations from Nv to Tx. I see it every day while driving across the US. I have not been to Mass for several years but would think they are getting on board also. We are producing more oil but we are also using less and will continue to use less. In Michigan we are dumping oil and coal powerhouses.
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LindsayRichards

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Once again wind and solar provide only 4% of the nation's energy and the Dept of Energy projects up to 10% by 2035. Not sure where MI is dumping the oil power houses as in the whole US, less than 1% comes from oil and that is mainly where coal and natural gas are unavailable due to isolation (like on islands). MI is less than the national average (see link below). Biomass from the North is much greater than wind and solar combined. The 30% equipment subsidy and the Production Tax Credit for wind both die out 01/01/15 and will probably not be renewed. Been over 20 years. 2015 alone would be $2.3 BILLION. Not sure where you get your info or are you just making it up. See link to see where MI actually
Actual MI Electricity Sources gets it's electricity.
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tomman58

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Diesel in La at $3.55 if you are in sight of a refinery add a few cents more . LOL
We are seeing the price of diesel pretty stable across the US. Highest price so far in Texas.
Seeing plenty of RV's on the road many going to Tx and Az some heading East but will surely be many more as we hit Ms Al and Fl.
Many friends waiting for us in our little city in Fl. We have been moving closer but will hit lower FL before settling in for the winter. The only thing we've noticed of late is the lack of Oysters. Guess many fields have been ruined for years thanks to BP. Last year in Fl they were getting oysters from Tx!
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Fl Natives get the Florida oysters. We sell the snowbirds the ones from Columbia.
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