rhagfo
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Well regular here is now $3.79 and diesel is $3.81 it is a great time to own a diesel!!
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time2roll
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tomman58 wrote:Why would anyone be surprised that as the mileage on cars continues to go beyond 25MPG the price of gas goes up proportionally. Did you really think the fat cats would want to bone down by selling less gas for the same money..come on now! There are more cars filling up every day.
Just because the US market demand is flat or declining has no bearing on the world market that continues to expand and bid the price up.
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South of Seattle in Bonney Lake Washington (the state) it was a surprise for us being an all diesel family, diesel is now less than gas (for the moment). Filled our GMC Duramax and our TDI Jetta for 3.79 a gallon (diesel) and regular unleaded (gasoline) was 3.89 at the local Fred Meyer grocery store. And I got .60 off filling the truck with discounts from grocery shopping. I don't remember the last time diesel was cheaper than gas. Hans
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SRT
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There still is a downward trend in fuel prices in our area. $3.49 is the latest price for gasoline. Diesel is "hanging" at $3.99. Even the price of a barrel of oil has slid under $100. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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$3.27.9 in south hill, VA
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SRT
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Pretty soon someone will invent a new battery that can run vehicles for several hundred miles or more without a gasoline engine to charge the battery. But I'm "not holding my breath."
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LindsayRichards
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Your next car may not have a tailpipe, but the electricity that charges it comes almost all from fossil fuels (smokestacks) and nuclear. Wind and solar make up less than 3.5% and are projected by the feds to be about 10% in 2035. Hydro is being severely curtailed by the environmentalist and now are less than 10%. When alternatives are a good buy (unsubsidized) I will be the first on my block to have them, but I am not going to buy the pie in the sky line being sold here. It is all about what IS possible, not what you want it to be. You can right now generate all of you home power from wind and solar. Just buy it yourself.
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John / Angela
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LindsayRichards wrote:Your next car may not have a tailpipe, but the electricity that charges it comes almost all from fossil fuels (smokestacks) and nuclear. Wind and solar make up less than 3.5% and are projected by the feds to be about 10% in 2035. Hydro is being severely curtailed by the environmentalist and now are less than 10%. When alternatives are a good buy (unsubsidized) I will be the first on my block to have them, but I am not going to buy the pie in the sky line being sold here. It is all about what IS possible, not what you want it to be. You can right now generate all of you home power from wind and solar. Just buy it yourself.
I get that there is a way to go but for many households (including mine) all the power comes from hydro and has for decades. The other thing is regardless of how slow the US moves in this direction many countries in the world get significant amounts of power from renewable sources, water, wind, solar, tidal. I concur with being realistic and not following the pie in the sky but we have to walk before we run. I just don't understand the resistance to forward thinking.
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I am all for forward thinking and like I said will be the first to have it, but the simple truth is it isn't here yet. I wish it was, but it isn't. Many countries have lofty goals, but haven't come close. Germany is backing away as quickly and has 6 coal plant being built. I am a big fan of nuclear, but we haven;t built one in 25 years. We have wasted tens of billion dollars for political cronies to build alternative energy plants that failed. Just read today about an electric truck maker going under. We spent over $35 million on it. To me, we would be much better off spending that money on research and less on the politics. Lets get it right and stop spending billions on things that we know will not ever be competitive. We spent $3.5 BILLION on that NV/CA concentration solar plant and it produces electricity at triple the cost of natural gas and has a lot of environmental problems. We keep building the same
old stuff.
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John / Angela
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LindsayRichards wrote:I am all for forward thinking and like I said will be the first to have it, but the simple truth is it isn't here yet. I wish it was, but it isn't. Many countries have lofty goals, but haven't come close. Germany is backing away as quickly and has 6 coal plant being built. I am a big fan of nuclear, but we haven;t built one in 25 years. We have wasted tens of billion dollars for political cronies to build alternative energy plants that failed. Just read today about an electric truck maker going under. We spent over $35 million on it. To me, we would be much better off spending that money on research and less on the politics. Lets get it right and stop spending billions on things that we know will not ever be competitive. We spent $3.5 BILLION on that NV/CA concentration solar plant and it produces electricity at triple the cost of natural gas and has a lot of environmental problems. We keep building the same
old stuff.
Yah I have read about some of the things you mentioned. Not always encouraging. But we are bound to stumble. The cheapest kW Is not necessary the best KW and expensive power forces us to conserve it or find better ways to use it. The LED bulb is an example of that. Regardless, discussion is good. Watching and reacting to other nations failures and succeses is important and there are some succeses out there. As part of my curriculum I have to read articles that interest me in foreign online newspapers and periodicals. On a daily basis I read articles in Spanish French and German. The interest in renewable energy including hydro, wind and solar is considerably higher in Europe, or at least it appears that way by the numbers of articles a available to read.
Like I said. Discussion is good and I appreciate your take on things. Forgive the spelling errors. I'm on an iphone.
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