wing_zealot
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High oil prices are here to stay. It is readily apparent to me that there are are whole lot of people that believe someone is trying to screw them and the guy in the mirror is not part of the problem. As long as they keep believing its the boogey man, nothing is going to change - except maybe for the worse. Keep dreaming folks, your executive and legislative branch of goverment ain't the answer. Now I have to get back to baking cookies for Santa.
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eltejano1
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Let's change the direction of the thread a wee bit. What are y'all doing to buy less fuel? Here's what I'm doing - in addition to setting-up our trailer in a permanent campsite.
We are retired and live in the country, 8 miles from town. My wife has a part-time bookeeeping job in the afternoon and goes to town everyday with the little car. I take care of our 22 acres and grow a huge garden. I used to drive my Dodge diesel to town nearly everyday to pick-up stuff at the feed store, tractor dealer, etc - but mostly just to BS with my cronies. I don't go to town anymore. When I need a tractor part, seed, feed or something from the hardware store, I either write a detailed note or call them in advance and my wife picks it up. We are saving significant amounts of fuel that way.
What changes have y'all made to deal with these high prices?
Jack
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Hurricaner
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120 dollar a barrel oil is not here to stay. The world demand for oil at that price will continue to drop until there is excess supply at which point the bottom will fall out of the oil market. People that believe the world will continue to use more oil at any price are just fools.
Kind of like a California Realtor a few years ago telling me that 15,000 people a month were moving there and that's why there is no end in site to what houses will cost. We all know how that turned out.
Sam
Sam & Kari
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topflite51
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wing_zealot wrote:High oil prices are here to stay. It is readily apparent to me that there are are whole lot of people that believe someone is trying to screw them and the guy in the mirror is not part of the problem. As long as they keep believing its the boogey man, nothing is going to change - except maybe for the worse. Keep dreaming folks, your executive and legislative branch of goverment ain't the answer. Now I have to get back to baking cookies for Santa. Yes, high oil prices are here to stay. People constantly like to blame others instead of taking personal responsibility for their own actions. They don't see themselves in mirrors, as they never look into them. Around here I can set the cruise at the speed limit on the freeway, and I am still constantly passed by virtually everyone, so I guess diesel and gas are not too high, yet. No, I don't believe conservation will lower the price of fuel, but it will certainly lower the impact on one's pocketbook. Let's just face the facts, all forms of energy are getting more expensive, and will continue to do so. A little conservation, will go a long ways in your pocketbook, all you have to do is look in the mirror. So, try it, you just might be surprised at the results.
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traxtermax
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wing_zealot wrote:... Keep dreaming folks, your executive and legislative branch of goverment ain't the answer....
If not the federal government, who would make a concerted effort to determine, develop and fund alternate energy sources/programs?
Counting on business to make the necessary investment doesn't seem wise because if they don't see profit, they won't invest; not only that, profitability doesn't necessarily solve the energy problem.
It's the government's responsibility to make sure it and its citizens continue to exist -- and it's time they get on the stick.
The government is responsible for not holding things in check or addressing them before disaster hits. Enron was a warning call, then Adelphia and others, adjustable rate mortgages, energy alternatives, etc. They continue to get blind-sided or ignore the problem until it becomes a crisis.
People will change their style of living but the government has to step up to the plate and put political differences aside -- like they did in WWII.
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topflite51
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traxtermax wrote:wing_zealot wrote:... Keep dreaming folks, your executive and legislative branch of goverment ain't the answer....
If not the federal government, who would make a concerted effort to determine, develop and fund alternate energy sources/programs?
Counting on business to make the necessary investment doesn't seem wise because if they don't see profit, they won't invest; not only that, profitability doesn't necessarily solve the energy problem.
It's the government's responsibility to make sure it and its citizens continue to exist -- and it's time they get on the stick.
The government is responsible for not holding things in check or addressing them before disaster hits. Enron was a warning call, then Adelphia and others, adjustable rate mortgages, energy alternatives, etc. They continue to get blind-sided or ignore the problem until it becomes a crisis.
People will change their style of living but the government has to step up to the plate and put political differences aside -- like they did in WWII. Along the same lines, here is another Jubak article that makes for a good read, whether you like Jubak or not. Of course the article is slanted toward one's future investments in energy, but it is enlightening. ARTICLE. Enjoy
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wing_zealot
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traxtermax wrote:wing_zealot wrote:... Keep dreaming folks, your executive and legislative branch of goverment ain't the answer....
If not the federal government, who would make a concerted effort to determine, develop and fund alternate energy sources/programs?
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I agree with you for the most part. My point was there are more then a few people that think the next administration is going to come in and nationalize the oil companies and every thing is going to be fine and dandy again. Yes, we need a comprehensive energy policy. But a lot of the people on this thread may be in for a shock as to just what such a energy policy will consist of. The days of cheap gas and diesel are over.
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ML
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We hear a lot about the price of oil going up, the big bad oil companies and our governments failures with energy policy, or solutions like getting off the road completely etc, as with all media its the ratings that drive the story lines and the negative gets the bulk of the lime light. What if we started to expose more of the solutions?
On the WEST COAST Oregon Farmer uses Wind Turbine for Power
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/06/_when_mike_bernards_began.html
In the MIDWEST you have heard about how windy Texas is, they are replacing oil wells with Wind Turbines:
http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-p........st-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html
"Texas surpassed California as the top wind farm state in 2006. In January alone, new wind farms representing $700 million of investment went into operation in Texas, supplying power sufficient for 100,000 homes." The rest of the article click here
On the EAST COAST:
America's first off shore wind farm
These may be small potatoes in the big scheme of things but they add up and a "penny saved is a penny earned". The less oil we need to power our homes and businesses the more available for transportation (RV's) till the vehicles already on the road can be retro-fitted to run on something else.
ML
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winkyb
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Why Rant Why Rave Just ride a moped and save your gas money for your RV or TV when camping or you need to haul something.
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