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TheCanuckian

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For us Canucks, the price of gas is insane. $1.41 a liter this AM in Montreal. Multiply that by 3.8 and that is your price.

However, when we go to the US, is is the same ( approx ) as it was 2 years ago. At that time the exchange rate was 35%, so $2.75 multiplied at 1.35 is $3.71.

No wonder I am losing my hair.....

Ps : Cigarettes are $8 a pack and beer is $24 for a 12 pack. That is why we go to the States. Cheap gas, smokes and beer. LOL


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Dick, no rants or raves from me, because I refuse to let the higher cost of gas and diesel get the best out of me. We made several changes in our personal habits and the way we manage our personal affairs, so that we actually come out ahead in spite of the higher cost of fuel. You have to look at this situation as a problem that has to be solved and all you have to do is find a solution or a way to solve that problem. That is the key! Regards, Chuck.


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The starting point for the guy who said we should be paying $5.86 was in 1973.
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I dont` know about anyone else. it is much easier for me to pay for a fill up now than it was in the seventies.


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sirdrakejr wrote:

The starting point for the guy who said we should be paying $5.86 was in 1973.
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The average price for gas in 1973 adjusted for inflation would be $1.448.

The worst price would be the peak price in 1981 at $2.896.




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HEY, when I was a kid, they had PRICE WARS............$. 19 a GALLON, was the cheapest I remember, course it was a couple of years ago...[emoticon]


NOW, the price war is to see who can raise it fastest, furthest.[emoticon]


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bfast54 wrote:

HEY, when I was a kid, they had PRICE WARS............$. 19 a GALLON, was the cheapest I remember, course it was a couple of years ago...[emoticon]


NOW, the price war is to see who can raise it fastest, furthest.[emoticon]


One must remember when we were kids the government and big businesses were smaller and there was still some semblance of honesty and competition.

Unfortunately, today the controlling factors are just greed and corruption. Anyone who believes otherwise still believes in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. [emoticon]


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Guess i believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy cause I'm not buying greed and corruption when I see the U.S. consuming 20.7 million barrels of oil every day. Unless of course you are talking about the greed of OPEC. But I don't sense by your previous posts, some of which have been deleted, that OPEC is who you are blaming. Try Supply and Demand and the willingness of us Americans to ignore how much oil we have been consuming for so long. Fix that all consuming thirst for 20.7 million barrels of oil every day, and the historical attitude that that still isn't enough, that we want more and more foreign oil, then oil prices may stabilize. Greed is right, but the greedy devil is in the mirror. (I also believe in the Easter Bunny in case you wondered)

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Long term planning seems to be a thing of the past. Where have the visionaries gone? People, companies and maybe even government leaders use to think ahead and prepare for their own future. Set short and long term goals with "Plan B's" available for along the way and if goals weren't met could re-direct instead of continuing off course. For awhile now it has been immediate gratification, charging more than you could ever afford, creative bookkeeping and band-aid fixes. It starts young with keeping up with the "Jones" kids see it on TV (logoed athletic shoes come to mind, some kids have been killed for theirs) and mom and/or dad are too tired to turn off the source or say no. What if we replaced nightly TV with library books. A weekly walk to the local library is good family exercise and library cards are free. Take a book instead of TV on their next camping trip, even if it mean pitching a tent in the backyard. Think how much money we could save for fuel. I know this is old fashion but if I wanted something my parents would say it would take a month of lawn mowing or weed pulling or so many nights babysitting to earn it. We need to create our own entertainment, professional athletic events, movies, plays etc they last a couple of hours and are just a memory for your money. Band-aid solutions will not fix the fuel supply and demand imbalance or prevent it from happening again. It will take a long term plan that should have been implemented years ago. A couple things come to mind... smaller houses, more parks to play and exercise in and get to know your neighbors, supplies within walking or biking distance. In addition to reducing our demand for fuel it would contribute to better health and reduce medical costs and more money to fuel our personal transportation whether it be car, truck, camper etc. a win win situation.

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wing_zealot wrote:

Guess i believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy cause I'm not buying greed and corruption when I see the U.S. consuming 20.7 million barrels of oil every day. Unless of course you are talking about the greed of OPEC. But I don't sense by your previous posts, some of which have been deleted, that OPEC is who you are blaming. Try Supply and Demand and the willingness of us Americans to ignore how much oil we have been consuming for so long. Fix that all consuming thirst for 20.7 million barrels of oil every day, and the historical attitude that that still isn't enough, that we want more and more foreign oil, then oil prices may stabilize. Greed is right, but the greedy devil is in the mirror. (I also believe in the Easter Bunny in case you wondered)


I guess you must believe in the Easter bunny. Ask yourself why our HUGE, GREEDY, and AWFUL thirst was about the same before big oil put Bush in, and yet gas prices were $1.67.
Ask yourself why domestic oil (50% of our usage) comes mainly from leases they pay $36 a barrel to the govt for, yet prices are based on the 30% we get from OPEC.
It is absolutely bizarre to hear people defending the right of monopolies to steal us blind. right?
If the oil companies didn't believe the free ride will be over when these thieves leave office, why doesn't Shell start making oil from shale? (THEY estimate the cost with development at $50 barrel.) Seems crazy not to do it... unless they believe >$50 barrel prices are not sustainable. huh?

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