AO_hitech
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mrjimboalaska wrote:.....that is 85% in 10 months...
But, you are not being taken advantage of. Their costs have gone up by that much. Somehow, it now costs almost twice as much to mine oil and produce fuel with it. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
I really need to start selling that beach front property in AZ...
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Skid Row Joe
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mrjimboalaska wrote:I also believe that our supply system in the US is about to be crippled due to diesel cost.....wake up folks, YES, the cost will be past on, and some of it will not hurt.
Think about Los Angeles with food shortages........bad news. When do you think this will happen? Next week, next month, next year.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/scratchead.gif "scratchead")
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eltejano1
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Joe may be right to some extent - perhaps there is a little Y2K hysteria setting in. Massive food riots do not appear likely anytime soon.
Jack
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nickthehunter
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AO_hitech wrote:mrjimboalaska wrote:.....that is 85% in 10 months...
But, you are not being taken advantage of. Their costs have gone up by that much. Somehow, it now costs almost twice as much to mine oil and produce fuel with it.
I really need to start selling that beach front property in AZ...
WE get it !! Actually, we got it 100 posts ago. You believe in the Big Oil Conspiracy Theory. Now show us something to back it up ?
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stevenicoldeactivate
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mrjimboalaska wrote:We need Nuclear Plants, WIND, Solar, Hydrogen, Bio Fuels(not food based) and continue our development of other forms of energy.
Please stop on the Nuclear power plant stuff; it takes too much time and energy for them to come on-line. Nuclear power is neat for big ships and stuff, but for that national power grid, we have much better, safer and cheaper choices. Like you say, the rest of it: wind, solar, hydrogen, bio fuels, and the development of alternate forms of energy needs more money and attention.
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AO_hitech
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nickthehunter wrote:WE get it !! Actually, we got it 100 posts ago. You believe in the Big Oil Conspiracy Theory. Now show us something to back it up ?
The price has gone up almost 100%, what more do you need?
Besides, I have, numerous times. But, I shouldn't have to with numbers like that.
Now, where did I put the deed for that beach front property...
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Skid Row Joe
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stevenicol wrote:Please stop on the Nuclear power plant stuff; it takes too much time and energy for them to come on-line. Nuclear power is neat for big ships and stuff, but for that national power grid, we have much better, safer and cheaper choices. Like you say, the rest of it: wind, solar, hydrogen, bio fuels, and the development of alternate forms of energy needs more money and attention. When should more nuclear power plant "stuff" be brought on-line, in 50 or 100 years.
There are no "better or cheaper choices," that will work......if there were, that stuff would already be working enmass, which it isn't.
Indian tribe members were protesting our meeting earlier this month to our proposed damming of a river in the northwest for more hydroelectric power generation. Until the crazed-loons are ignored by lawmakers, there will be more suffering, and no more nuclear power generation plants built. France is 85% nuclear electric.......they get it!
Nuclear power is cheap, clean, and most importantly, safe.
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eltejano1
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Steven in OR
I disagree. I think that nuclear power is he only viable way to produce enough energy to replace carbon fuels to any meaningful extent. I think the future of the planet may hang on whether we can develop and deploy fusion reactors - a clean and unlimited source of cheap power. Physicist working on the project have now actually created, in a lab environment, a brief fusion reaction - ref: Science Channel documentary this afternoon. But they emphasize that we're probably fifty years from getting it on-line, which will just about coincide with the final extraction of the last few drops of oil.
In the meantime, we should once again build conventional fission plants. All that other technology - wind, biofuel, tidal currents - seems mickey mouse to me. We're talking bigtime energy here - how many BTU's in 20 million barrels of oil?
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Sea Dog
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"First of all, the long haul trucker referenced probably needs to hang it up. Second of all diesel is already six bucks a gallon in Canada. Third of all, trucking firms have been surcharging for over a year now. And fourth of all making-up stuff about how food will be rotting and people starving in the streets is bunk and hysteria."
First of all, the trucker referenced hauls exclusively in the US.
I doubt if he has bought a gallon of Canadian diesel in ten years.
Secondly, he says that the fuel price has outstripped the surcharge and they are eating the difference.
Thirdly, if the trucker is using moneys to buy fuel that should go for payments, living expenses and upkeep, how long will they continue to operate at a loss?
Everyone seems to think that this little fuel crisis will soon go away and we will return to a couple of dollars a gallon.
I do not think so.
I honestly think that most of us are going to see a rapid reversal in fortunes unless we are among the few wealthy enough to be insulated from the troubles of the working stiff and the little guy.
Life is short,Death is long,
Take a vacation.
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jdewellz
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"what a revolting development they've gotten us into". fuel almost high enough to start camping in your driveway.
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