everymilesamemory
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pnichols wrote:Are those pictures above of "the highest public road pass in America" that I've read about?
It would be an interesting topic thread to talk about and publish pictures of the largest RV to (ever) cross this pass! Not just pickup trucks w/shells, but "true" RVs.
If this is a true statement, it looks like we now have a new goal for this summer![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
I dont know what my wife will think when I tell her we have to tow the 25' TT up to the top so we can say we are the largest to ever go that high, but I'll do my best to talk her into it.
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Don/Shar wrote:rvndogs wrote:Don/Shar wrote:Boondocking in Quartzsite, Az South La Paz long term area.
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Why the border rocks? Don't tell me it keeps the snakes out...
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No it was not to keep snakes out. When we got there we found this site someone used last year and had the area marked off with rocks we pulled into and had a nice spot for the month. Also found where someone in 2000 made an outline of the USA.
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wow, that's pretty cool!!!!
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Headed up Mt. Antero, the switchbacks were very very impressive.
Mt. Antero is not a "pass"; but at 14,269' it is the 10th highest peak in CO (Pikes Peak at 14,110 is the 31st highest in CO and at 14,433 Mt Elbert is the highest) and I believe Mt Antero is the highest point in CO you can drive a vehicle.
85% of all mountain peaks that are 14,000' or higher in the United States are in Colorado.
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Rubiranch
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pnichols wrote:Are those pictures above of "the highest public road pass in America" that I've read about?
It would be an interesting topic thread to talk about and publish pictures of the largest RV to (ever) cross this pass! Not just pickup trucks w/shells, but "true" RVs.
i.e. I wonder if a Tiger or Earthroamer has ever crossed this pass? How about a Class B on a van chassis ever crossing this pass? Is 4WD absolutely required ... or could a 2WD rig (with a lot of weight on the rear wheels) make it in the middle of summer?
Also, I guess it would be difficult for a carburator engine powered heavy rig to make it this high? Probably fuel injected/turbo-charged/super-charged would have a much easier time of it?
4-wd drive is required. It is difficult to show how truly steep and rough this trail is through a camera.
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This is coming down off of Redcone Pass. This is a one-way trail because you can't see the bottom of the trail from the top. We would have someone stay on top so we could climb back up; this is another "white knuckle" trail. Probably only 1 out of 10 people would ever try and probably less than 50% of them succeeded climbing to the peak from this side. The picture does no justice as to just how steep that hill really is.
The truck we took up this trail was a F-250 4-wd, carbureted (dual-fuel and ran on propane), is equipped with a Trac-Lok limited slip in the front and a Detroit Locker in the rear.
Also if you watched WKAYLs video it showed the trail climbing through a very tight section of pine trees, there are a few corners that it would take us a couple of tries to get around that would limit anything bigger than a regular cab long bed truck, height clearance would also be a problem through the pines. I think it would be difficult for an H1 to fit through the pines too due to their width.
A "heavy" vehicle could very well be disastrous descending Red Cone; it is very steep and is composed of very loose shale.
It is a spectacular trail.
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everymilesamemory
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Rubiranch wrote:
A "heavy" vehicle could very well be disastrous descending Red Cone; it is very steep and is composed of very loose shale.
It is a spectacular trail.
Well then there goes my summer plans to be the only RV to ever have summited it
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Thanks Rubiranch for the great detail. I'll take a look at WKAYL's video!
I was curious about some of these challenging trails with respect to RV's in the Tiger/ER/Class B categories.
As a side note I do have a fuel injected GMC Z71 4WD P/U with locking rear and manual remote front diff set up fairly rugged that I'm sure could deal with the likes of what you describe .... but I live too far from CO. I bought it specifically for off-road special-permitted volunteer work that I do in the rugged outback of Northern CA's largest state park where driving by the general public is not even allowed.
I would really like to see a forum topic, eventually, that includes photos of the most unusual and/or toughest places people have got their RV rigs into and out of without assistance.
BTW noticing your equipment list, just recently I sold a 1965 Ford HD F250 2WD with a posi rear, four on the floor, 15 rear leafs on each side, 3 gas tanks, and cascade brake boosted that I upgraded from the stock 351 to a 390. I could drive right to my back door here in the mountains using no gear lower than one down from the highest - 3rd. The GMC needs it's gears to get to my digs, but that long-throw 390 could do it through pure twisting power.
For what it's worth we spent four years at Hill AFB in Utah and explored the deserts and mountains some, in and around Utah. Unfortunately all we had at the time was a fastback Mustang pulling a tent trailer .... we never got stuck but did blow out tires on the trailer!
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You can see the tire diggs in the photo from people trying to go up it. Rubiranch you are tempting me again with the photos of that yellow ford. And believe me if a rv could do it it would be rubyranches ford and trailer. So if he has not done it it can not be done. HAHAHA
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Here is a perspective shot of Red Cone from near the top of Webster Pass. Look closely and you can see the white sign at the summit indicating its 12,800' height. The statement that cameras cannot properly reflect the pucker factor of this trail is quite true.
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Another bad thing is that if you go off the edge you will not stop until the bottom of the canyon stops you. There is nothing to keep you from going all the way down. Has anyone ever gone off the edge. I do the trails on ATVs now as my truck is my every day driver and my way of making money. So i can not take any chances at break downs.
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What's with all the pics and discussion of 4 WD trails? I thought this was a forum for pics of RV Boondocking? No way would I pull my RV up these trails just to get to a good boondocking spot - maybe a tent but not an RV.
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