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Posted By: GA2500HD on 11/11/15 02:46pm

2003 GMC 2500HD crew cab 4x4 6.0L
2014 Rockwood Ultra Lite 8281WS

Truck rating:
Front axle: 4670
Rear axle: 6084
GVWR: 9200

Weighed at Pilot truck stop on CAT scales

Truck full of gas, Me, the wife, 2 kids
Front axle: 3600
Rear axle: 3260
Total: 6660

Truck and Fifth Wheel ready to camp with 1/3 tank fresh water
Front axle: 3660
Rear axle: 5200
Fifth wheel: 7040
Total GCW: 15,900

2003 GMC Sierra 2500HD CC 4x4 4.10 gears 6.0 Vortec
2014 Rockwood Signature Series Ultra Lite 8281WS

Posted By: KeithAS on 01/05/16 05:08pm

2010 Dodge 3500, SRW, 4X4, Crew Cab, Pullrite Superglide 16K
2016 Grand Design 303 RLS

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Truck: GAWR Front-5,500 lbs.; GAWR Rear-6,200 lbs.; GVWR 10,100 lbs.; GCWR-21,000 lbs.
Truck, passengers, hitch, full fuel: Front Axle-4,840 lbs.; Rear Axle-3,180 lbs.

Truck and 5th Wheel less than half fuel, all tanks on fiver-1/2 indicated: Front Axle-4,920 lbs.; Rear Axle-5,660 lbs.; Gross Combined Weight-19.280 lbs.

Edit as a response to cdlaine's post below mine, and how he hopes to get 20 years out of his 13 year old truck. My (almost) 6 year old truck has 10,200 miles, so I will be on his tail (maybe a few years behind).

* This post was last edited 02/13/16 12:15pm by an administrator/moderator *

2010 Dodge 3500 SLT, 6.7 CTD, SRW, 4WD, SB, Auto
2016 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS

Posted By: cdlaine on 01/14/16 08:34am

After reading these posts I thought I'd reanalyze
my most recent Cat scale data... (see sig.) they have
remained consistent for the past 4 years... so ,unlike
me, not much weight creep. [emoticon]

Here are the take home lessons (as expected):

290 #'s under F GAWR
264 #'s under R GAWR
840 #'s over GVWR (truck)
1680 #'s under GVWR (5ver = 14,300 per NW)
2120 #'s under GCWR (truck + 5ver = 22,000 per GM).
Pin @ 21.3 %

so, no surprises. Tows well. Stops well. Handles grades well.
I do not haul water. (IMO) I believe the 5ver is under axle'ed (6000 lbs.)
(Northwood has since moved to 7K) , and under tire'ed. (e-rated). I'm that
guy that sets cruise control at 55 and stays there...
unless feeling really racey and move to 57 mph. [emoticon]

Truck left pretty much stock, exceptions: K&N filter, Air bags, Transfer
flow mid-ship replacement tank. Hope to get 20 years
out of the Chevy... sitting on 13 now. Not much I'd change.

Charles

* This post was edited 01/14/16 08:57am by cdlaine *

2003 2500HD, 8.1L,CC,4.10,2WD,Allison
Standard bed
Ride-rite air bags
Prodigy
Husky 16K sliding

2013 Artic Fox 29-5T Silver Fox Ed.
Pin wt.(CAT Scale) 2660#
5th (Cat Scale) 12600#

I'll want the Frim Fram sauce with the Ausen Fey with
Chafafa on the side.... Nat

Posted By: djgodden on 01/27/16 02:41pm

TV: 2012 Ram Laramie Longhorn Crewcab 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel (ETJ) w/ Edge Insight CTS.
Looking to CAT scale the rig this coming week.
Trans: 68RFE 6 Spd (DG7)
Diff: 3.74
GVWR: 9600
Payload: 2170
Curb Weight: 7429
Front Axle: 4554
Rear Axle: 2875
GAWR Front: 5500
GAWR Rear: 6010
GCWR 20k
Max Trailer:12400

2012 Ram 2500 4x4 Lariat Longhorn 6.7 CTD HO, Edge Evo CTS, Extreme Tow/Haul brakes, aFePower Diff cover, LL 5000 bags, 285/70R17, Reese Q20 w/slider. 2005 Montana 2955RL w/400w solar, Renogy MPPT, 4 x 6v @ 12VDC (450AH), 3000w Inverter, King VQ4100.

Posted By: BarryTorm on 02/06/16 03:11pm

HELP! We are heading West from Florida to Washington state for work. I have a 2013 F150 SuperCab v8 5.0 with 355 ratio re. The Ford service department gave me the towing capacity of 9600 lbs with 13800 gcwr. I am not sure where you all find all the numbers listed in posts.
We have been looking at the 5th wheel 1/2 ton towables, Jayco 27.5 RLTS and Grand Design Reflection 29rs. Both are dry weight 8000lbs. Naturally the dealers are telling me my truck can pull them both with no issues. So I come to you guys to help a newbie out. I can not get a bigger truck at this time so I have to find a trailer I can tow across the country and possibly live in for a year so comfort is a big concern. To get the same floor plan in a TT they are coming in around 34' which to me is a bit longer then I would want.

I know this is a topic over killed but I am not sure how to find all the proper ratings.

Posted By: DW-gray on 02/09/16 12:30am

BarryTorm wrote:

Stop! Those dealers don't know jack. There are 12 different styles of the F150 and there is only one the may be able to tow a 5th wheel. Since yours has only a 3:55 ratio, I'm certain it's not 5th wheel capable. But to prove it for yourself, consider using RV Tow Check to find out what the realistic vehicle towing capacity is.

Dave Gray
RV Safety Educator & Consultant
08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

Posted By: Michelle.S on 02/09/16 06:01pm

Lets look at it this way: You have a Combined Gross of 13,800 you hook up an RV at your rated capacity of 9,600, now subtract that 9,600 from your GCWR and leaves you 4200 for your truck, cargo, 5th wheel hitch, and passenger. My bet your truck weighs more than the remaining 4200 Lbs. Plus to add to the confusion, those 8000 Lb Dry weights are for a base model before any options, so they actual out the factory door will usually be higher. My last two fivers left the factory better than a 1000 Lbs above brochure dry weights.

2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country Crew Cab DRW, D/A, 2016 Redwood 39MB, Dual AC, Fireplace, Sleep #Bed, Auto Sat Dish, Stack Washer/Dryer, Auto Level Sys, Disk Brakes, Onan Gen, 17.5" "H" tires, MORryde Pin & IS, Comfort Ride, Dual Awnings, Full Body Paint

Posted By: CWSWine on 02/13/16 11:26am

Here are my cat scales weights.

2015 Ford F350 SRW not hooked to 5er
Steer Axles 4740
Rear Axles 3480
GVWR 11500
Payload 3744
RAWR 7000

Cat Sales
Steering Axles 4880
Rear Axles 6460
Trailer Axles 10980
Total 22320

Keystone Montana 3711FL Stats
Camper Weights 14,100
Truck with 5er hitched 11340
Pin Weight 3120
Pin Percentage 22.1

5er Dry weights
Pin Dry 2790
Total Dry 13200

Loaded for a weekend trip. The front living room and front storage was loaded with every thing in it that we would take camping. The bedroom and the food pantry including the fridge are aft of the front axles so those shouldn't increase pin weights by adding weight.

* This post was edited 02/14/16 06:12pm by CWSWine *

2017 Discovery XLE 40 D DP
Sold Grand Design Solitude 310GK-R
Sold 2016 GMC Denali 1 ton Diesel 3722 CC
5er 13,600 - 3100 pin - Truck Weight 11380 Truck GVWR 11,500
Only 180 lbs below my trucks MAX GVWR

Posted By: mikeh449 on 03/29/16 11:02am

just weighed new tv and trailer here are the numbers
tv alone front 5000
rear 3440
total 8440
tv 2015 Ram 2500 6.7 ctd

with trailer front 4720
rear 5100
trailer 7120
gross 16940
trailer 2014 eagle ht 27.5 rlts gvw 9900

Posted By: bpounds on 03/29/16 11:22am

mikeh449 wrote:

Any theories about why your front axle weight went down with the fiver hitched? Does not seem possible to lose 280#, even if your hitch were placed too far rearward.

Numbers look good for a 3/4T truck.

2006 F250 Diesel
2011 Keystone Cougar 278RKSWE Fiver

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