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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 08/21/13 07:48pm

Good call on the dually!

2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Posted By: Buckeye Chuck on 08/27/13 05:08pm

Just got it weighed today at Cat Scale.

Steer axel: 4000 lb
Drive axle 5380 lb
Trailer Axels: 9540 lb
Gross Weight: 18920 lb

2012 F250 Super Cab swb (short wheel base) 6.2L gasser pulling a 2013 Sabre 33CKTS..38ft

* This post was edited 09/05/13 08:58am by Buckeye Chuck *

2012 F250 Lariat 6.5ft. bed, 6.2L, 3:73 Gears
2013 Sabre 33CKTS-6

Posted By: ependydad on 09/03/13 11:45pm

Buckeye Chuck wrote:

Where do you fall against your truck's stickers say for GVWR and GAWRs?

Did you weigh the truck alone? Didn't you ask how much people typically load into their RVs?

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Posted By: Buckeye Chuck on 09/04/13 08:58am

I did ask in an earlyer post how much people loaded in their fiver. I have asked quite a few questions. This is a great place to ask questions.

Truck GVWR.....10000
Truck GCWR.....19500
Truck RAWR.....6100
Truck Max. Payload....3100

Cat Scale weight of truck alone:
Steer Axel..... 4080
Drive Axel..... 3200
Gross Weight w/full fuel, passengers and hitch.....7280

* This post was last edited 09/05/13 12:01pm by Buckeye Chuck *

Posted By: Jarheadfmf03 on 09/05/13 10:55am

I have a 2004 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 and a 2003 Terry 5th wheel that is 11,000 lbs. empty. I'm guessing full of fuel and water and everything else my wife fills every little compartment with I might be at 22,500 lbs.

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Posted By: Charli on 09/05/13 04:36pm

Finally made it to the scales, what a surprise.
5er - '12 Cougar XLite 26SAB \ Dry Wt 6755, Pin Wt 1150
TV - '08 Ram 2500 Laramie, Quad, 4x4, CTD, 3.73

======2500 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,200.========4,629.=======4,608.
GAW-R ==6,200.========3,174.=======4,982.
GVW====9,000.========7,803.=======9,590.
GCW===20,000.=====9,590 + Trailer Axles 6,812 = 16,402.
Payload==1,970.========1,197.=======-590. overweight
Trailer Wt loaded, no water - Trailer Axles 6,812 + 1787 Pin = 8,599

The scales must be broken. Cant believe that the truck when loaded with myself, DW, Dog and a few odds n' ends but no trailer shows that my remaining payload reduces from the door sticker at 1970 down to 1197. Also cant believe that we have loaded 1844# of stuff in the 5er (which is supposedly 1/2 T towable).
The truck squats about 3" and is almost on the overloads but handles great and lots of pulling power.
Our plan was to upsize the 5er to something with a dry weight of 10,500# and a Pin wt of around 2,000. I figured I would have to add a leaf and/or air bags as seems to be the case with so many out there but based on the above wts a bigger 5er will put me in danger of exceeding a 3500's wt ratings. They say the only difference between a 2500 and 3500 is an extra leaf so perhaps thats my solution.
DW retires next summer and the following winter we want to winter in Az so I have till then to decide what to do. Any ideas would be most welcome.

* This post was edited 09/05/13 04:43pm by Charli *

'11 F350 KR, 4x4, PSD
'14 Mountaineer 331RLT

Posted By: sdetweil on 09/05/13 04:42pm

Yeh Charli.. 2500/f250 don't have a lot of carrying capacity.
my 250 was 10,000 gvwt, and 8380 truck only (nothing in the bed).
leaving a total of only 1620 lbs carrying.

Sam

2012 Ford F350 DRW, 6.7 diesel.
2013 Keystone Alpine 3720FB

Posted By: Glen Schumann on 09/06/13 08:13am

Charli wrote:

Your pin weight ratio from the factory was 17%; as you loaded the camper it's over 20%. Can you move stuff to the backend of the camper(or at least behind the camper axles)? Since the only place you are over is GVWR hitched that may help some.
The newer trucks have higher GVWRs and from what I hear higher yet is on the way. Lot's of competition in that area.

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2010 Chevy 3500 HD LTZ Crew Cab Duramax/Allison 4X4 LB
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Posted By: Charli on 09/06/13 09:00am

Unfortunately not a lot of storage room behind the axles. Kitchen is over the axles and then of course all the storage under the bed and in the basement plus the spare tire is under the front of the trailer. I do have 2 mtn bikes on the back. Perhaps I should be looking at a rear kitchen model next time which should help offset all the items stored in the basement of a 5er.

Posted By: sidney on 09/06/13 03:59pm

Truck Weight... Loaded with 2 passengers, gear, dog and hitch.

Front Axle: 5,150 FAWR: 6,000
Rear Axle: 3,600 RAWR: 7,000
Total: 8,750 GVWR: 11,700

Truck with Loaded ready to camp 5th wheel...

Front Axle: 5,150
Rear Axle: 6,550
Total: 11,700

Trailer axles: 10,100 Axle Rating 2 x 6000 = 12,000

GCW: 21,800 GCWR: 25,000

Pin Weight: 2,950 (6,550 - 3600) Dry Pin Weight: 2095

Trailer GVW: 13,050 (10,100 + 2950) GVWR 14,085

Trailer Cargo: 1,155 (13,050 - 11,895 Dry Weight)

GCW: 11,700 + 10,100 = 21,800 GCWR 25,000

I was a little surprised how much of our cargo weight of 1,115 lbs contributed to the total pin weight (2,950 - 2095 = 855 lbs).

Proving yet again... the published dry pin weights from the manufacturers are of very little help when considering your trucks actual payload capacity.

* This post was edited 09/07/13 04:49pm by sidney *

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