Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.
Cdnsailor wrote:
Hi everyone,
Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel
2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio
2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG
Thanks
Hi everyone,
Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel
2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio
2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG
Thanks
Sorry, my truck is a 2500HD 3/4 Ton, 4 wheel drive
Tongue: 2301 lbs
Cargo: 2178 lbs
GVWR: 15472 lbs
sirdrakejr wrote:
And the GVCW rating is?
Frank
And the GVCW rating is?
Frank
If he has the 4.10 axle ratio, his truck's GCWR should be 30,000 pounds.
Dave Gray
RV Safety Educator & Consultant
08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012
Cdnsailor wrote:
Hi everyone,
Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel
2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio
2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG
Thanks
Hi everyone,
Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel
2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio
2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG
Thanks
The best place to get your answer is at Fifth Wheel St.
* This post was edited 08/12/12 03:05pm by DW-gray *
Mike
2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38P, 6.8L V10
2002 Honda CRV, 5 spd manual, Blue Ox & Brake Buddy
juzplanekrazy wrote:
I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……
TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs
I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……
TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs
2009 GMC 2500HD = 5,700, with my fat butt on board!!
2010 Jayco Eagle Superlite 31.5RLDS = 9,960, mostly loaded.
2010 Eagle Super Lite 315RLDS
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD 6.6L Duramax
2010 Nights 45
2011 Nights 70
2012 Nights 144
2013 Nights 46
2014 Nights 49
2015 Nights 57
2016 Nights 73
2017 Nights 40
2018 Nights 56
2019 Nights 76
2020 Nights 68
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Truck: 2004 D/A CC SB 2WD. 400# passengers and dog. Tool box with Honda generator, some fuel and other stuff. Reese slider hitch.
Fuel was just above 1/4 full.
Trailer: 2004 Crossroads Cruiser CF28RL fiver. The kitchen cabinet sticker says it weighed 7300# dry at the factory. We had our stuff plus 1/3 full fresh & waste tanks.
Truck front l/r: 2025/2025 = 4050. GAWR 4410. Tires 3042 each.
(Truck front weighed exactly the same with and without fiver.)
Truck rear l/r no 5er: 1600/1575=3175. GAWR 6084. Tires 3042 each.
Truck total without 5er: 7225
Truck rear with 5er: 2900/2725 = 5625.
Loaded truck total 9675. GVWR 9200 (over by 475)
5er front l/r: 1750/1800 = 3550 GAWR 5200. Tires 2830 (E range Maxxis)
rear l/r: 1800/1850 = 3650
Trailer axle weight 7200
Trailer total 9650 GVWR 12395.
Pin weight 2450 25%
Total GCW 16,875 (don't have the GCWR handy)
Comments:
This is a pretty light trailer but the bed slide and front storage really puts the pin weight up there for such a relatively small 5er. I'd be better off running a full tank of fresh water (58 gals) in the far back of the unit. And/or better if I got a (solidly mounted) storage box on the rear of the trailer to replace the one in the truck bed.
* This post was edited 12/27/12 09:25am by Snowman9000 *
Currently RV-less but not done yet.
Loaded with fuel and coolers, no persons or pin: 7440
Add 2200 pin from loaded Stellar 28SBG: 9640
Stellar 28SBG 11,900 GVWR
Loaded with 4 quads, fuel and water: 12,560. 2200 pin, 10,360 axle
2006 Chevy 2500HD 8.1 4x4 CCSB (sold)
2012 Eclipse Stellar 28SBG, Spring Over Axle (Sold)
Snowman9000 wrote:
We had a complete wheel by wheel weighing today, with the truck and trailer loaded for travel. Weighing was done by Stacey and his wife at http://weighit.tripod.com at Casa Grande, AZ.
Comments:
This is a pretty light trailer but the bed slide and front storage really puts the pin weight up there for such a relatively small 5er. I'd be better off running a full tank of fresh water (58 gals) in the far back of the unit. And/or better if I got a (solidly mounted) storage box on the rear of the trailer to replace the one in the truck bed.
We had a complete wheel by wheel weighing today, with the truck and trailer loaded for travel. Weighing was done by Stacey and his wife at http://weighit.tripod.com at Casa Grande, AZ.
Comments:
This is a pretty light trailer but the bed slide and front storage really puts the pin weight up there for such a relatively small 5er. I'd be better off running a full tank of fresh water (58 gals) in the far back of the unit. And/or better if I got a (solidly mounted) storage box on the rear of the trailer to replace the one in the truck bed.
Hi Snowman9000,
Congratulations on your first step to safe towing by weighing all wheels. Your trailer axle weight distribution is very good; good job! I have a few thoughts for you to consider.
1. It is best to weigh your rig when it is fully loaded and all tanks are full, (i.e. fuel, fresh water if you dry dock often, propane, etc.) just as if you're on your way to camp.
2. You state that the front axle weight did not change. That could also indicate center of your 5th wheel king pin is positioned nearly over the rear axle or most likely behind the rear axle. It's best to position the king pin center 3-6 inches in front of the rear axle. By doing this, some of the weight will be shared on the front axle therefore reducing some weight off the rear axle. Also, by doing this, you may discover improved towing and handling. If the king pin position is correct, then you're correct in redistribution of some of the weight to the rear of the trailer.
3. Find the truck's GCWR to ensure your not overweight.
4. You'll find some good reading material at Fifth Wheel St. as well as a printable weight safety report.
Your numbers indicate you're marginally overweight. But you could discover it's worse once you weigh your fully loaded rig.
* This post was edited 08/12/12 03:03pm by DW-gray *
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* This post was last edited 02/28/12 09:35pm by cefloyd 1961 *
2006 f350 superduty 6.0.. 2012 sandpiper 345RET loaded