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Posted By: Future5'er on 03/12/11 10:48am

I am thinking about purchasing a 2006 Durango 315BH 5th wheel. I am curious about the hitch weight. My tow vehicle is a 2004 F-250 crew cab 6.0 diesel. Do I have enough truck to safely tow this trailer? Any help is appreciated.

Posted By: miteldan on 03/19/11 08:02am

We brought a 1985 Jayco 35ft 5th wheel and I need to know what it weighs I have a 16K Reese that is brand new will it be healthy enough?

Posted By: bigdaddy51200 on 03/19/11 08:36am

Future5'er wrote:

Max loaded weight on that trailer 9,500

your truck can tow between 13,100 to 13,700 depending on your cab .

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2004/2004RVTrailer_F250_350.pdf

2014 THOR CHALLENGER 37KT

Posted By: jmvx2 on 03/20/11 10:04pm

TV 07 Dodge Quad, 4x4 short bed, 6.7, 6 sp auto towing 08 Jazz 3300 36 foot 5th wheel with 5th Airborn SideWinder Hitch.
TV GVW with trailer hooked up 9780#
RA with pin weight 5290#
FA with pin weight 4490#
Trailer axles 9400# on tandems or 4700# per axle. 235/80-16 load range E tires, 3500# capacity per trailer tire.
GCVW 19180#
Weighed with DW, me and dog and full diesel, water tank, propane and supplies left in trailer. Only perishable food and some clothes not loaded.
Have since added Firestone airbags just to level truck out when towing even though it did not sag to bad without. I carry even heavier hitch loads when towing gooseneck with farm equipment.

17 Ram 3500 DRW, CC, Long Bed, Larimine, 4x4, 6.7 HO 900 ft lb, Aisin auto, 4.10 gears, B&W 25k lb.,Companion
2018 Grand Design Solitude 360 RL-R 40', 5 slide, 6pt Hyd auto level, King bed, TrailAir pin box.
"Don't bad mouth farmers with a full mouth!"

Posted By: soling2003 on 03/22/11 11:05pm

Thought I might as well add mine here too,

2010 F250 CC long, 6.4 diesel, long bed 4x4 with hitch, wife and full tank of diesel - tires are rated at 3750 lbs.

Truck only - Front axle - 5240
Rear axle - 3540

With Grand Junction 35TMS pretty much fully loaded -
Dry weight - 12840
Dry pin weight - 2273
GVW - 15500

Truck front axle - 5260 - rated at 6000
Rear axle - 6300 - rated at 6100
Trailer axles - 11540 - rated at 14000
pin - 2760
GCVW - 23100 - GCVWR 23000

I Know, I know, I am finding myself a few hundred pounds over here and there. We took a trip across a few mountain passes here in Wa and OR with no issues going up or down. Probably upgrade to a Dually one of these days.

* This post was edited 03/23/11 10:48am by an administrator/moderator *

DW and 2 dogs
2011 Ford F350 Dually LB 4x4 CC 6.7 diesel
2007 Grand Junction 35TMS
Peterson 37(just sold) T-37 R/C Sailboat at home

Posted By: erniej on 03/24/11 10:12am

How about some weight limits on 1/2 to pick ups like a Cheverlot Silverado 1500 with a 5.3 Engine?
Ernie J

Posted By: Tireman9 on 03/30/11 05:32pm

With all the info on this thread I figure this is a good place to make a request related to weight and inflation.

Over the past few years the requirements for vehicle load capability and tire inflation have evolved. I am looking for examples of the label on your RV.

Many Trailers have a sticker with tire size and inflation minimums on the side of the trailer. Motorhomes may have a sticker near the drivers seat or a sheet with the load measurements made by the manufacturer on what looks like a sheet of paper or a smaller label.

Sometimes this lable is on the inside of the entrance door. Sometimes it seems like the manufacturer made an effort to hide the label in a place you would never think to look such as inside a closet.

My request is that you try and capture a picture of the information on the lable noting what your loads are and what the tire inflation minimum is supposed to be based on information from the manufacturer.

I would also request you get a shot of the location of the information sheet. I know that in My Coachmen the data sheet is glued to the inside wall of the closet. In my case the manufacturer provided the actual load on each corner based on what the RV weighed when it left the factory. I have seen examples where the manufacturer didn't follow the requirement and the data sheet showes 0 pounds load empty.

40 years experience as tire Design & Quality engineer with focus on failed tire forensics.

Posted By: Glen Schumann on 03/30/11 06:19pm

soling2003 wrote:

What is the GVWR of your truck? Hitched you weight as shown in your post is 12,100 lbs. The number I found for an F250 GVWR is 9200 lbs. If that is accurate you are nearly 3,000 lbs over your GVWR when hitched.

2013 Redwood 34 SK (36'11", e slides, dual pane windows, self leveling, full paint)
2010 Chevy 3500 HD LTZ Crew Cab Duramax/Allison 4X4 LB
B&W Companion Hitch on Rollover Gooseneck Ball
Handmade Pens, Glen’s Workshop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/GlensWorkshop

Posted By: sirdrakejr on 03/30/11 10:14pm

Quote:
Truck front axle - 5260 - rated at 6000
Rear axle - 6300 - rated at 6100
Trailer axles - 11540 - rated at 14000
pin - 2760
GCVW - 23100 - GCVWR 23000
Actually it appears that the weight WITH the pin is a total of ( 5260+6300= ) 11,460# . The total AXLE ratings = 12,100# so he is UNDER the GAWR by 740#! But over the truck's GVWR by a over 2000#!
Frank

2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

Posted By: Snowman9000 on 04/04/11 11:13am

I weighed my rig today. 2004 Duramax crew cab 2wd, and old 1993 Jayco 265 RKS fiver.

The truck included 20 gals of diesel (125), me (160), hitch (150), other stuff in front of hitch (70).

Trailer is ready to camp but not provisioned. No food, drinks, towels, clothing, books, detergents & chemicals, that sort of thing.

There is at most 250 lbs loaded aft of the axles, including 20 gallons of fresh water. There is at most 150 lbs loaded at the front of the trailer. Camping stuff.

OK, the scale weights:
Truck front axle 3800
Above plus truck rear axle 7920
Above plus trailer first axle 10940
All axles 14320 (GCWR 22000)
Trailer axles only (hitched) 6380
Trailer on landing gear lifted off truck 7420

Calculated:
Truck front 3800 (GAWR 4410)
Truck rear gross 4120 (GAWR 6084)
Truck rear net 3080 (without pin)
Truck total as loaded, no pin 6880 - 6900 (GVWR 9200)
Pin 1040 (14%)
Trailer front axle 3020
Trailer rear axle 3380
(3500 lb axles!)

There was no way to get a side to side split on the scale platform. It's a right rear kitchen though, so rear axle loading is obviously an issue. Especially the right side.

Jayco said:
Dry axle weight 5110 (rotfl)
Dry pin 995
GVWR 7995

I estimate my truck to be ~7200 fully fueled, peopled, loaded and ready to hitch up a fiver. So I can take 2000 lbs of pin to hit the GVWR. The manual says 2500 max, but that's without DW, dog, gear, etc, I'm sure.

* This post was edited 04/05/11 04:46am by Snowman9000 *

Currently RV-less but not done yet.

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