Coast Resorts Open Roads Forum: Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

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Topic: Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

Posted By: BarbChapman1950 on 10/14/09 05:20pm

New to the forum - Reentering camping with an 02 Jayco Quest 5th wheel, 26 feet. Need a truck. I thought the trucks GVWR had to be over the weight of the trailer (with cargo, people, etc). Is that correct? Think the trailer is 8600 lbs,but am going to check with Jayco. Looks to us that no 1/2 ton would do it, so thinking 3/4 ton. Looking at this real weights post however, I am thinking I may have it wrong as it appears quite a few of the trailers exceed the tow vehicles rating? Can someone help?? Thanks!! Barb

Posted By: sirdrakejr on 10/14/09 10:50pm

Do a search in this forum for GVWR and stand back. You will find all the answers you need with some you don't! [emoticon]

Good luck and welcome back.
Frank

2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

Posted By: B W M on 10/16/09 11:42am

ramcneal wrote:

siberian wrote:

OK, I just got off the Cat Scales in Battle Creek Mi. 02 F-350, SRW, CC,4X4, 7.3PSD, auto. 5er is a 1997 30ft Wildwood. Steering axle 4980, drive 4580, trailer axle 6740. Why is my steering weighing more than my drive axle? DW and myself, and 1/2 tank of fuel. Can somebody explain this to me.

That's easy. Diesel engines are heavy. There's an article on esacpes.com (I think that's the right forum) talking about using Class 8 trucks for towing 5th wheels. In the article the author talks about avoiding a certain model of Cummins engine because without the weight of a real trailer you run the risk of being over weight on the front axle.

YES your fifth wheel is mounted to close to the cab. See if your fifth wheel is a adjestable.If so you need to move it back from 1 to 2 inches. 1 might do it for you.== GOOD LUCK Here is my truck frunt 5.160 Both 12.160 truck trailer 28.200+ both trailer axles 10.880

* This post was edited 10/16/09 11:49am by B W M *

03-3500 laramie 4x4 6 speed 3.73 gear Jake brake triple piller isspro gauges 04-38ft fifth wheel Prowler AX-6 100gal in bed fuel tank volant air intake tool box Utra-Fab air deflector Tom Tom 720

Posted By: ramcneal on 10/16/09 01:01pm

B W M wrote:

His 5th wheel might not be located to close to the cab. He should weigh his truck when empty to determine if the 5th wheel is adding any weight to the front axle. My truck (Dodge 2500 Cummins quad cab 4x4) weighs in around 4500lbs on the front axle without the trailer which is not much lighter than his truck.

2008 Keystone Challenger 32RKS
2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins, 6-speed manual, exhaust brake, air bags, Rancho 9000 shocks

Posted By: Tireman9 on 10/16/09 01:52pm

BMW
Isn't the GCWR 23,000#?

I am having trouble understanding your weights.

Posted By: BigCL on 10/16/09 11:25pm

TV: 2009 2500HD

Steer Axle 3800
Drive Axle 4480
Trailer Axle 7120
Total Axle 15400 (per CAT scale)

Weight of TV w/o Trailer with a full tank of fuel 6740lb
Trailer WT Loaded 8660
Pin WT 1540
GCWR 16000

* This post was last edited 10/21/09 07:54pm by BigCL *

2016 F350 XLT 4x4 SRW CC LB 6.7L
2012 Heartland Sundance
16k Husky EZ roller Hitch

Posted By: John Holveck on 10/20/09 11:34am

I have a 2008 Ford F350 DRW King ranch. I weighed it soon after I bought it in 2008 and the weights empty were steer axle 4780lb Drive axle 3680lb gross weight 8460lb. I weighed it with my Newmar Cypress trailer yesterday (10-19-2009) and the weights were steer axle-4720lb Drive axle-6840lb Trailer axle-11700lb Gross weight-23260lb. According to my owners manual this truck is rated for a combined gross weight of 23500lb. My wife wasnt in the truck and ther were no groceries or clothes in the trailer but other that that it was pretty much ready for a trip. 1/4 tank water and full propane.

Posted By: marspec on 10/20/09 12:08pm

2008 F450 Pick Up
Ready to tow w/hitch, full fuel:
Right Front - 2450 Left Front - 2475
Right Rear - 2000 Left Rear - 2152

With Fiver:
Right Front - 2500 Left Front - 2500
Right Rear - 3350 Left Rear - 3650

Fiver:
Right Front - 3150 Left Front - 3175
Right Rear - 2700 Left Rear - 2925

Trailer Weight Total 14950 with pin weight of 2950
Combined Weight Truck/Trailer 23950

2013 F450
Towing 2013 Lifestyle 37RESL

Posted By: sloman2001 on 10/21/09 09:07am

2009 Ford F-350 6.4PSD 4x4 SB SRW, 18K Superglide Hitch
2010 Keystone Cougar, Mountain Package, Polar Package Plus, Dinette Table & Chairs

When Weighed there were 330 lbs of occupants (me and the DW), the Superglide hitch, full 30 gals deisel, empty trailer but 60 lbs propane.

Truck Only (full deisel, 330 lbs of occupants, and 18K hitch)

Steer Axle Drive Axle GVWR
Rating 6,000 7,000 11,400
Actual 5,080 3,620 8,700

Buffer 920 3,380 2,700

Truck & Trailer as described above

Steer Axle Drive Axle Pin Wght Trlr Axle GCWR
Actual 5,160 5,180 1,560 7,680 18,020

Buffer 840 1,820 4,980

Posted By: B W M on 10/24/09 07:02am

Tireman9 wrote:

BMW
Isn't the GCWR 23,000#?

I am having trouble understanding your weights.

YES i posted wrong weight it should had been 23.040+ or -

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