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Posted By: Mad Dog 378F on 06/28/08 02:46pm

2008 F350 DRW Lariat 4x4 long bed 6.4 PS.
Truck max GVRW is 13,000 lbs. Total GCVW 23,500
Truck with fuel and 2 people. 5340 front
4240 rear
Total unloaded truck 9,580 lbs.

2006 Everest 323P Rear Kitchen Gross vech. weight is 14,200 lbs.
Front Axle 4,800
Rear Axle 5,260
Total Trailer Axle weights 10,060
Total weight of Trailer and Truck with full Propane and 20 gallons of water is 22,680 lbs. Under GCVW by 820 lbs.

22,680 - 10,060 Trailer - 9,580 truck is 3,040 hitch weight.

10,060 axle plus hitch 3,040 is 13,100 lbs total trailer weight.
20% of 13,100 is 2,620 suggested hitch weight. I'm under everywhere except hitch weight, where I am over by 420 lbs. My total truck
GVRW is 12,620, under by 380 lbs.
I'm legal, a little tongue heavy, but very little wiggle room.
Truck pulls it nicely, but I have some of that Rear Kitchen bounce.
I'm reluctant to move any weight from the front of the trailer to the middle or worse back of the trailer.
Guess I just need to get rid of some junk in the basement!

Posted By: Betsy II on 06/29/08 11:30am

Paul:

Very nice arrangement and well taken care of.

You do understand the loading parameters for your truck and 5er.

Happy RV'g.
Roy

Posted By: AUWing on 07/07/08 10:02am

Here's my all stock 2006 Silverado, 2500 LT - EC - Reg box - D'Max and 2006 Jayco 325 bunkhouse

Rating / Scale
Steer Axle 4,800 / 4,440
Drive Axle 6,084 / 5,140

Vehicle w trailer 9,200 / 9,580
Vehicle w/o trailer / 7,240
Max Load as noted 2,655 / 2,340
on door piller sticker
Trailer Axle / 8,520

Combined 20,000 / 18,100

2014 Jayco 331RETS
Thermal Pane, Auto Level, Fireplace
2011 Silverado 2500HD EC Regular Box D'Max / Allison
Great wife and a good dog

Posted By: wfr1 on 07/09/08 10:09pm

2K8 Silverado Duramax
2K7 Komfort 241fs (25ft 5th Whl)

Truck Empty 7500 Lbs
Trailer Empty 6963
Total 14470

Truck Fwd Axle wt 4400
Truck Rear Axle wt 5200
Trailer Axles wt 7600
Total 17200

5 gallons fuel
no water
empty holding tanks
lots of stuff in the 5'ver
lots of stuff in truck bed
too much fire wood

2K8 Chevy LTZ Turbo Diesel
Transfer Flow Fuel
2K7 Komfort 241fs
Lots of minor mods
USAF Ret - Nam thru Desert Storm

Posted By: dkiewicz on 07/21/08 11:38pm

TV - 2000 GMC K3500 4x4
Cort 20K hitch
*********************************

Size, liters/cu. in. 5.7 /350
Horsepower @ rpm. 255 @ 4600
Torque (lb-ft) @ rpm. 330 @ 2800
Curb Weight, lbs. 4292
Standard Payload, lbs. 2755
Fuel Capacity, gals. 34.0

Model K30903
UWV 5227 lbs
GVWR 9200 lbs
GAWR Frt 4500 lbs
rear 6084 lbs
CGVWR 17500

5ver 2008 Rage'n Xtra-Lite 3205 32' Toyhauler
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100 gal water
40 Gray
40 Black
14 g propane
4.0 Onan
20 Gal fuel cell
UVW - 8310 lbs (includes propane and generator etc...)

Cat scale TV w/17 gal fuel and hitch 6060 lbs w/5ver on hitch 7580 lbs for a pin weight of 1520 lbs

5ver 15 gal fuel, food, clothes mountain bikes empty Fresh/Gray and Black tanks - 8400 lbs

Front trailer axle 3180 lbs
Rear trailer axle 3700 lbs

CGVWR 14,460 lbs

w/100 gal fresh water and 2 dirt bikes 9710 lbs

CGVWR 15,770 lbs

I couldn't believe a max tow rating of 8300 lbs for the 2000 model year 1 ton. I talked with GMC, the local guru on towing, and anybody else that's had an opinion on this and my goal became to stay under 10K. Not only for the license, but the truck actually performs well stock.

I am adding a tranny cooler, K&N filter and Magna Flow exhaust. I expect to pick up another 30hp and 11 ft-lbs of torque.

As everyone told me I wouldn't win any races, and I have more than enough truck, but I can pull Cajon Pass in So Cal at 55 mph (the speed limit) with no less than 35 mph at the steepest grade near the top at 2500 rpm. I could most certainly run it to the floor and maintain 55 bottom to top, but what's the point.

I'm getting 8 mpg with trailer and about 12-13 mpg without.

I'm sure there's a few here with opinions that have loads of experience, so please jump in!

I'm glad I found this place because all of my homework was by myself, and so far I think I did it right.

Dan ...

Posted By: akula1 on 07/23/08 05:45am

Here's my stock 2003 Silverado, 2500 HD D/A LS EC Long Bed
2009 Keystone Montana 2980RL

Rating / Scale
Steer Axle 4,800 / 4,240
Drive Axle 6,084 / 5960

Vehicle w trailer 9,200 / 10,200
Vehicle w/o trailer / 7,500
Max Load as noted 2,655 / 2,700
Trailer Axle / 10,000

Combined 22,000 / 20,040

Question I have is, if I am underweight on all axles, but over on vehicle w trailer by 1000 lbs, should I be concerned?

I barely have 500lbs of cargo. The trailer weighs 11,200 empty.

Thanks for your response.

Don't shoot until you see the fear in their eyes!

Posted By: siliconjunkie on 08/01/08 09:16pm

2001 Ford F-250 4x2/Extended Cab Short Bed/Lariat/6.8 V10
Truck w/full tank of fuel
6800 lbs

Truck with 2001 KZ Sportsmen 2457, full tank of fuel in truck, full LP in trailer, empty water/waste tanks:
15,000 lbs

Trailer works out to be 8200 lbs and gross is 10,000
Unfortunately, I did not have the axles positioned right to get all the axle weights, I have steer and trailer axles and gross.

Posted By: Jonesey on 08/03/08 09:17pm

Our 2005 2500HD CC SB 4X4 6.0 and 2006 Mountaineer 319BHS ready to go for a weekend:

Axle Scale / Rating
Steer 3600 / 4800
Drive 5320 / 6084
Gross 8920 / 9200
Trailer 9120 / 10,160 (tandem axles)
Overall 18040 / 16,000 (GCWR)

Every axle is within specs, however my GCWR is exceeded by just over a ton. If my truck had the 8.1 gasser or the Duramax, it would have a 22,000 GCWR. So, brakes and frame are the same as the more powerful engines, I'll just climb the hills a tad slower. Pickup alone weigh 3540 on the steer, and 2940 on the drive axle, giving me a trailer weight of 11,560 and a pin weight of 2440. Montana says this trailer will have a hitch weight of 1770, I suppose that could be possible empty....Brochure gives trailer GVWR as 11,930 but sticker on the side of the camper says 12,105 for a GVWR. Tires are ST235/80R16 Load Range E with a load rating of 3560 per tire. The truck rides very nice and level with the stock suspension. Brochure also says the trailer weighs 9690 dry, so I have added 1870 pounds of water, propane, clothes, food, blocks, beer, etc.

Hank

2005 Chev 2500HD CC SB 6.0 4L80E 4.10
2006 Mountaineer 319

Posted By: BillandCarole on 08/04/08 09:13am

It is my observation that virtually all of the Chevy Duramax's 6.6 (including ourselves) are appearing to be exceeding the max vehicle weights (GVWR) of 9,200 lbs. Admittedly we were over by only 400 lbs (when loaded) but this seems to be the case with most of us. (We will have to shift loads to the rear of the 5'ver and dump the firewood) We had safely, with no control issues either in normal or emergency situations, towed this way for over 10,000 miles. Some who have posted, have weights of over 1000 lbs or more over this. Some recognize the issue, some don't. While it is normally the custom to have a considerable amount of "cushion" in the "safe" or "maximum" gross weights, it is disconcerting to know that we were doing this, and it could have legal implications, not to mention insurance issues. I wonder if this is also the case with the other makes and models? It was also interesting that many focus on the max cargo or pin weights and ignore the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) which is the most limiting. We were within all of the axle ratings, and cargo weight limits and still exceed the Gross vehicle Weight limit. We focused on the wrong things.
Bill

* This post was edited 08/04/08 09:27am by BillandCarole *

2K8 Chevy LTZ Turbo Diesel 4x4
Cats Vino, and "Stubby"
Transfer Flow Tank
2017 Fox Mountain 235RLS
Reese 16K Slider
Honda EU2000's to power the toys
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"And were still wandering..."

Posted By: Mayoman on 08/06/08 03:18pm

1997 Dodge 2500 HD with Cummins Diesel (automatic):
Loaded to go camping with myself, wife, hitch,gear and full fuel:
Steer Axle 3780
Drive Axle 2620
Gross Weight 6400
GVWR* 8800

TV and Cougar 293 SAB Loaded: (No water in tanks)
Steer Axle 4080 (GAWR 4500)
Drive Axle 4440 (GAWR 6000)
Trailer Axle 7920
Gross Weight 16440
Gives Loaded 5er weight of 10040.
True Hitch Weight Loaded: 1820 (within limits)
Axle weights within limits
TV and 5er GCWR 440 over--gonna have to lose some gear and maybe make
wife walk (just kidding).

Interesting 5er weight because empty weight is listed just shy of 9000# by manufacturer and I can almost guarantee I haven't added 1040 lbs. of gear.

Volvo VNL 780
2005 Mobile Suites 36TK3
ET Air Ride Hitch

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