sidney

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Av8orlouTX wrote: Steer axle 4100
Rear axle 6800
Trailer 10,400
Combined weight 21,300lbs
Heavier than I thought it would be but it works for me.
2004.5 Chevy D/A 2500 HD and 2013 Cedar Creek 34RLSA
Lou,
Your rear axle weight seems very high.
Do you know your unhitched rear axle weight? I would have guessed under 3000lbs.
At 6800lbs... and 3000lbs empty... your looking at a pin weight of ~3800lbs.
The dry pin weight of the 34RLSA is 2085lbs. I'm curious about the factory options you added and what other heavy items you may have loaded in the trailer. What's the dry weight of the trailer from the yellow sticker on the door?
Or possibly you are carrying other heavy cargo in the bed of the TV.
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sidney wrote: Av8orlouTX wrote: Steer axle 4100
Rear axle 6800
Trailer 10,400
Combined weight 21,300lbs
Heavier than I thought it would be but it works for me.
2004.5 Chevy D/A 2500 HD and 2013 Cedar Creek 34RLSA
Lou,
Your rear axle weight seems very high.
Do you know your unhitched rear axle weight? I would have guessed under 3000lbs.
At 6800lbs... and 3000lbs empty... your looking at a pin weight of ~3800lbs.
The dry pin weight of the 34RLSA is 2085lbs. I'm curious about the factory options you added and what other heavy items you may have loaded in the trailer. What's the dry weight of the trailer from the yellow sticker on the door?
Or possibly you are carrying other heavy cargo in the bed of the TV.
Not only high, but possibly exceeding the GAWR, and worse yet depending on tire size the tire weight rating.
My 265/75-16 would only have 30# to spare at that load.
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sidney wrote: Av8orlouTX wrote: Steer axle 4100
Rear axle 6800
Trailer 10,400
Combined weight 21,300lbs
Heavier than I thought it would be but it works for me.
2004.5 Chevy D/A 2500 HD and 2013 Cedar Creek 34RLSA
Lou,
Your rear axle weight seems very high.
Do you know your unhitched rear axle weight? I would have guessed under 3000lbs.
At 6800lbs... and 3000lbs empty... your looking at a pin weight of ~3800lbs.
The dry pin weight of the 34RLSA is 2085lbs. I'm curious about the factory options you added and what other heavy items you may have loaded in the trailer. What's the dry weight of the trailer from the yellow sticker on the door?
Or possibly you are carrying other heavy cargo in the bed of the TV.
To ensure you're not exceeding the weight ratings, use free the calculator at Fifth Wheel St.
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Yes I was extra heavy this particular time I was carrying some firewood in the fiver and extra stuff in my tool box and truck bed. I am not usually this heavy but I was this day because I had a lot going on. I wasn't camping I was just taking the fiver in for warranty work.
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PatricioFamily wrote: This is interesting. There is so much mis-information out there. For 6 months we were pulling a TT that we were told was 7800 lbs dry. Come to find out it was really 10,200 lbs. We have been wanting to find a truck weight station and test for ourselves what are weight really is just to be sure. But dont know if we are permitted to do this. We just thought it would be a good way to know for sure. What do you think? Anyone every tried this before?
I don't know about your state, but up here in Maine, if the scales are open and busy, sometimes we find a "portable" State Police Scaler, usually in the spring, but most anytime. If not busy, you can ask if you see one, if they'd weigh you. This way you can weight each axle as well as whole rig. Or check w/your local S.P. barracks. Your taxes pay them don't forget.
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4kyyote wrote: PatricioFamily wrote: This is interesting. There is so much mis-information out there. For 6 months we were pulling a TT that we were told was 7800 lbs dry. Come to find out it was really 10,200 lbs. We have been wanting to find a truck weight station and test for ourselves what are weight really is just to be sure. But dont know if we are permitted to do this. We just thought it would be a good way to know for sure. What do you think? Anyone every tried this before?
I don't know about your state, but up here in Maine, if the scales are open and busy, sometimes we find a "portable" State Police Scaler, usually in the spring, but most anytime. If not busy, you can ask if you see one, if they'd weigh you. This way you can weight each axle as well as whole rig. Or check w/your local S.P. barracks. Your taxes pay them don't forget.
You can go to a Cat scale at any truck stop. The cost is about $10. You weigh twice, once hooked and once with just the truck. The ticket gives you weights for each axle of your TV and for the trailer axles combined.
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I have a TT right now...but a 5th wheel is looking good with the new truck. Here are the actual scale weights:
2013 Ford F250 XLT, CC, 6.2, 3.73 rear , 4x2, 4/5/13
Truck with Me (250 lbs) and full fuel:
Steer axle 3,880
Drive axle 2,980
Total 6,860
Truck with ME in it, full fuel, trailer full water (water tank is between tongue and axle on trailer)
Steer axle 3,760 (max front 4,250)
Drive axle 4,060 (max rear 6,100)
Trailer axles 5,000
Gross 12,820 (GCRW 19,000)
I figured the total trailer weight is 5,960 and 960 of that is tongue weight (max is 1,250). My truck with me, full water and the trailer weights 7,820 lbs (10,000 GVWR ) Looks like 2,180 for what ever else.
Door sticker payload 3,253
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Learjet wrote: I have a TT right now...but a 5th wheel is looking good with the new truck. Here are the actual scale weights:
2013 Ford F250 XLT, CC, 6.2, 3.73 rear , 4x2, 4/5/13
Truck with Me (250 lbs) and full fuel:
Steer axle 3,880
Drive axle 2,980
Total 6,860
Truck with ME in it, full fuel, trailer full water (water tank is between tongue and axle on trailer)
Steer axle 3,760 (max front 4,250)
Drive axle 4,060 (max rear 6,100)
Trailer axles 5,000
Gross 12,820 (GCRW 19,000)
I figured the total trailer weight is 5,960 and 960 of that is tongue weight (max is 1,250). My truck with me, full water and the trailer weights 7,820 lbs (10,000 GVWR ) Looks like 2,180 for what ever else.
Door sticker payload 3,253
Trailer 2006 KZ Frontier, 2303P-F
Your numbers look pretty good. There is a good conventional towing safety report at FWS that you can plug those number into. Also, since you're in the market for a fifth wheel, consider using the free web based app Before You Buy RV
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Ok got the rig weighed.
steer axle 4320 (GAWR FRT 4670)
Drive Axle 5320 (GAWR RR 6084)
Trailer Axle 9420
Gross Weight 19060 lbs. (GCWR 22,000)
Just under 1/2 tank of fuel, me and the dog (blue heeler) 1/3 water in trailer(according to the panel) and full propane tanks.
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Volvo 420 Single Axle, 14,000 with both tanks full HR Presidential 5th Wheel Dry 12,000, Wife's stuff estimate 5,000 , my stuff 20 , total weight down the road 26,000, (minus the wife stuff Jokingly)and still get 10-11 MPG.
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