Rick MC
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sirdrakejr wrote:Quote:
Truck front axle - 5260 - rated at 6000
Rear axle - 6300 - rated at 6100
Trailer axles - 11540 - rated at 14000
pin - 2760
GCVW - 23100 - GCVWR 23000
Actually it appears that the weight WITH the pin is a total of ( 5260+6300= ) 11,460# . The total AXLE ratings = 12,100# so he is UNDER the GAWR by 740#! But over the truck's GVWR by a over 2000#!
Frank
Actually I have the same truck in a 2008. GVW is 10,000# over by 1460#
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2011 F250 CC FX4 6.2 3.73
2011 Jayco Eagle Superlite 30.5 DBSA
CAT Scales
Truck: (1/2 tank of gas, me 190lbs, son 155 lbs, 5th hitch)
Steer Axle: 4260
Drive Axle: 3200
Gross : 7460
With camper packed to camp, 3/4 tank of gas, me 190lbs, wife 120lbs, son 155lbs, daughter 80lbs, son 30lbs.
Steer Axle: 4,480
Drive Axle: 5,280
Trailer : 7,860
Gross : 17,620
That means :
Truck : 9,760 (weight on axles)
Trailer : 9,940
People : 575
Pin : 1,780ish
Truck GVW is 10,000
Truck Max Cargo 2,400
Truck Max tow 12,000
Truck GCVWR 19,000
Trailer GVW 11,700
I think I'm under all of my max weights. It pulls, and stops just fine. I'm getting Timbrens next week to level out the truck. I'm kind of close to the max weights. Do ya'll think I need more truck for this camper? The pin weight seems high to me, but I'm brand new to the 5th wheel world.
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REWahoo
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boomsling wrote: Do ya'll think I need more truck for this camper? The pin weight seems high to me, but I'm brand new to the 5th wheel world.
Looks good to me.
You are under the max in all categories. Your pin weight is at 21%, in the middle of the recommended 15 -25% range.
I'm weighing my new rig next week for the first time and doubt my numbers will look as good as yours.
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boomsling
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Thanks for the info! I was a little worried about being so close to the GCVWR. With 4.30 gears the GCVWR bumps to 22,000. Same truck. What gives? Maybe I shouldn't be so worried. It pulls and stops just fine.
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Well, I am brand new to this camping stuff. I guess I really have a question or looking for a thumbs-up or thumbs-down if what I have is ok. I do not know the weight of my truck (2010 F150 FX4 Supercab, door and a half). My camper is a 2011 34' 5th wheel (Chaparral Lite-for 1/2 tons) that weighs 8330. Truck is equiped with a 5.4L engine and has the max trailer towing package. I live in southeast louisiana which is flat lands but I do want to get out and around other states.
My Truck:
GCWR - 17,100
Axle Ratio - 3.73E
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Lado wrote:Well, I am brand new to this camping stuff. I guess I really have a question or looking for a thumbs-up or thumbs-down if what I have is ok. I do not know the weight of my truck (2010 F150 FX4 Supercab, door and a half). My camper is a 2011 34' 5th wheel (Chaparral Lite-for 1/2 tons) that weighs 8330. Truck is equiped with a 5.4L engine and has the max trailer towing package. I live in southeast louisiana which is flat lands but I do want to get out and around other states.
My Truck:
GCWR - 17,100
Axle Ratio - 3.73E
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Firstly, You need to study this guide for your answer: 2010 F150 Towing Guide
Second, if you have Microsoft Excel on your computer, you may use the spreed sheet shown below to guide you through weighing your truck and trailer.
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REWahoo
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First weigh-in of new truck and new (to us) 5th wheel:
2011 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 Duramax
2007 Jayco Eagle 291RLTS
Truck specifications:
GVWR 10,000
GAWR Front 5,200
GAWR Rear 6,200
Max payload 2,440
Trailer specifications:
GVWR 12,500
GAWR 5,000 (x2)
CAT Scales
Truck: (loaded for the road, full tank of diesel, hitch, me & the wife)
Steer Axle 4740
Drive Axle 3320
Gross 8,060
Truck and trailer: (truck same as above, trailer packed for the road)
Steer Axle 4,720
Drive Axle 5,340
Trailer 9,020
Gross 19,080
That means:
Pin weight 2,020 (18%)
Truck GVW 10,060
I'm under the maximum limits except for (surprise) the truck 10,000 GVWR. I exceed that limit by 60 pounds (0.6%).
I think I'll go with it.
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The problem I have with most people who weigh their trucks is that they mix "apple & oranges". The truck has a GVWR of 10,000#. Then they use the GAWR for the other weights rather than the GWR for each axle. The two GAWRs will NEVER equal the GVWR because they will be higher. They are higher for a reason and you should TRY to stay within the GVWR and not the GAWR. But that is for another thread.
Frank
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REWahoo
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sirdrakejr wrote:The problem I have with most people who weigh their trucks is that they mix "apple & oranges". The truck has a GVWR of 10,000#. Then they use the GAWR for the other weights rather than the GWR for each axle. The two GAWRs will NEVER equal the GVWR because they will be higher. They are higher for a reason and you should TRY to stay within the GVWR and not the GAWR. But that is for another thread.
Frank
If this is addressed to my post above, please start the thread so I can understand what you are trying to tell me. I'm not seeing where I did what you are saying.
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REWahoo wrote:sirdrakejr wrote:The problem I have with most people who weigh their trucks is that they mix "apple & oranges". The truck has a GVWR of 10,000#. Then they use the GAWR for the other weights rather than the GWR for each axle. The two GAWRs will NEVER equal the GVWR because they will be higher. They are higher for a reason and you should TRY to stay within the GVWR and not the GAWR. But that is for another thread.
Frank
If this is addressed to my post above, please start the thread so I can understand what you are trying to tell me. I'm not seeing where I did what you are saying.
REWahoo, from what I see, you are missing two things. 1. The truck GCWR and 2. Hitch GTWR. You have incomplete info.
Consider using the Truck and Trailer Weight Report shown below.
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