Dave&Monica
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grizmt wrote:'06 GMC 3500 CC Dually, 2010 Big Sky 340RLQ fully loaded for full time.
2230 lbs
2230lbs!! Heck, I could pull that with my old S10!
Just kidding...you're obviously missing a zero.
2010 Rockwood 8280WS
2008 F250 CC Lariat SB 6.8L V10
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grizmt
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Dave&Monica wrote:grizmt wrote:'06 GMC 3500 CC Dually, 2010 Big Sky 340RLQ fully loaded for full time.
2230 lbs
2230lbs!! Heck, I could pull that with my old S10!
Just kidding...you're obviously missing a zero.
Yep,sorry....
2006 GMC CC 3500 D-Max Dually
2010 Montana Big Sky
1 wife 1 teenager (what was I thinking?!)
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AntiqFreq
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We just weighed our rig this past weekend
with the truck and trailer attached,
then detached....
The truck weighs by itself - 8300 lbs.....
Full tank, 2 Honda generators in tool box
and the hitch & five gallons of gas & 2 adults
inside.
The camper weighs by itself - 10,0400 lbs....
that is fully loaded for camping. No load in
the holding tanks except for 1/2 full in the fresh
tank.
According to the sticker for the trailer, we are NOT
overloaded.....yeah......it says we can be up to but
not over 11,000lbs...can't believe it....
All that stuff and still underweight!
J.P.
2007 Keystone Cougar, 291 RLS
2003 Ford F250, 7.3L, Lariat, CC, SB, 4x4
Isspro Gauges-overhead mount, 14K Pullrite Superglide
Firestone RideRite airbags & pressure gauge
Two Honda eu2000i generators, parallel kit
Bell Morningstar Canoe, bent shaft paddles
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EMD_DRIVER
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We just bought a 2003 Sunline F-311SR yesterday. On the way home, we stopped by a cat scale.
Steers: 4,780lbs
Drives: 5,760lbs.
Trailer: 8,220lbs.
GCVW: 18,760lbs.
TV is a 2005 F350 PSD crew cab, short bed. Reese 16,000lb slider hitch.
2007 Excel 30RKE fifth wheel
2011 Ford F250 6.7l
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Tom&Dale
Sammamish, WA
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2002 QC CTD
Axle capacity per driver side rear door decal:
4,500 - Front
6,084 - Rear
Tow ratings for 2500 CTD QC 4x2 with 3.55/4.10 axle ratio:
13,800 - Max trailer weight rating
20,000 - GCWR
3,085 - Tire rating @ 80psi
Flying J scales with loaded 5th wheel, including 300lb dirt bike and Joe Hauler on trailers rear hitch:
4,040 - Front
5,260 - Rear
9,600 - 5th wheel axles
18,900 - lbs gross
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02 Dodge 2500 CTD, Edge EZ, Goerend transmission (3.55 axle ratio), BrakeSmart, BD exhaust brake, Firestone Ride-Rite air bags, Husky 16K hitch & towing our 05 Americana LC30/31 RL
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herkybc130
Kentucky
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2002 F350 CC PSD DRW 4WD with 59 gallon internal tank topped off wife and two kids aboard:
- steer axle 4700 lbs
- drive axle 3520 lbs
- gross weight 8220 lbs
2010 Jayco 365 BHS with above mentioned truck:
- steer axle 4900 lbs
- drive axle 5920 lbs
- trailer axle 9620 lbs
- gross weight 20440 lbs
According to the data plate on my truck, Front GAWR is 5200 lbs. Have 300 lbs to spare. Rear GAWR is 8250 lbs. Have 2350 lbs to spare. My total GCWR is 20,000 lbs according to the Ford manual. So, if I am reading my weight slip correctly, I am already 440 lbs over my max GCWR. And I have not even started to load up the "extras"; tools, camping stuff, beach stuff, etc.
Thoughts?
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Future5'er
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Newbie here... Please bare with me... I am wondering what my truck limit is on hitch weight. TV is '04 F-250 crew cab 2 wheel drive 6.0 diesel motor. From my calculations I am running into a limit on hitch weight before I hit any other limits.
8800lbs Tow vehicle limit
7500lbs Tow vehicle weight full of fuel with myself, wife, kids
From my calcs, I am limited to 1300lbs for hitch weight. True??
I haven't purchased a 5th wheel yet. Looking at a Cruiser bunkhouse model with a pin weight of 1500lbs.
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zachlaplante
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On Vehicle Ratings:
Weight ratings is a complicated subject, but needs to be understood. There are several ratings, most of which do not add together. They are actually different ratings and are limited by different conditions. Here is my understanding of the ratings:
GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating): This is the weight limit of your vehicle. It includes all passengers, gear, fluids, fuel, everything (called gross weight). It does not include the weight of a tow vehicle, but it would include the pin weight of a fifth wheel, since that weight is a load in the truck bed. I'm not sure what design aspect of the vehicle limits this, but my guess is that it is suspension and handling related.
GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating): This is the weight limit of your vehicle plus any towed vehicles. It includes the gross weight of the tow vehicle and the gross weight of the towed vehicle. Note, gross weight is the actual total weight of the loaded vehicles, not the gross weight limit. This limit is usually related to either the drive train capability or the breaking capability of the tow vehicle. Since the trailer has its own brakes, my guess is the limit is related to the drive train of the tow vehicle.
GAWR (Gross Axel Weight Rating): This is the weight limit that is allowed on any axel. Your vehicle will have one rating for the front axel and another for the rear axel. As with GVWR, GAWR includes all weight loads such as passengers, gear, and fuel. If you have a fifth wheel hitched, it would include the pin weight load. This limit is to keep the respective axel from being overloaded, it is usually limited buy the ability of the tires to support the total axel load.
Tow Rating: This is the limit of the tow hitch at the rear of the vehicle. It is a limit to the gross weight of the towed vehicle. This limit is normally related to the strength of the hitch. If you are towing a fifth wheel, it is of no concern to you because the fifth wheel is not connected to the tow hitch.
There is only one way to know if you are operating within your vehicle weight limits, and that is to load up the tow vehicle and trailer and go to a scale and get weights. The trailer needs to be fully loaded, including fluids, so the holding tanks should be full, and all of your gear should be loaded on the trailer. To do it right, you should get four weights: Front axel (FA), rear axel hitched (RAH), rear axel unhitched (RAU), and trailer axel (TA). Please note that the pin weight of a fifth wheel will add a little weight to the front axel, because the fifth wheel ahould be a few inces in front of the rear axel, but the amount is so small, I am ignoring it and assuming all of the trailer pin weight falls on the rear axel.
FA + RAU should be less than GVWR
FA + RAH + TA should be less than GCWR
FA should be less than Front GAWR
RAH should be less than Rear GAWR
Your pin weight (PW) is RAH - RAU
PW + TA should be less than the GVWR for the trailer
I hope this helps. I recommend you take the time to check your weights, all of the weight ratings are there as safety limits.
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dieselfreak21
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TV 2003 Ram 2500 Quad Cab Long Box Cummins: Actual Weight Full of fuel, hitch, dogs, kid, wife and tools 7130. GVWR 9000, GCVWR 19000. RV: 32' Cardinal, 3 slides, GVWR 14000. Ready to camp minus water as I don't haul with water (personal choice), TV and RV 20500. 2800 on the pin.
TV:2003 Ram 2500 QC/LB 4x4 Cummins Powered 5 SPD Hand Shaker. TV MODS: 60 hp injectors, TST, Dual Disk Clutch, Chrome Stacks, Ride Rite Bags, B&W TOB and Companion and 500 hp.
RV:2003 32' Cardinal 32LX rolling on Eagle alloys and Hankook F19's
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herkybc130
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Does anybody here have experience with the DOT in Kentucky getting their TV certified for a higher GCWR?
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