dturm
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I don't work on anything larger than a great dane, but I find it difficult to believe that pentobarb would be used to euthanize large animals. Because of cost, I just can't imagine it would be done. Do any of you know how farm animals are euthanized??
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dturm wrote:Do any of you know how farm animals are euthanized??
I looked it up and let's just say by "mechanical" or "physical" methods, not by lethal injection as with smaller animals. Some pets such as horses might be given tranquilizers in advance, though.
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I unfortunally had to have my horse euthanized. When she was "put down" she was given a some blue liquid in her neck. She had to have two and a half since she was so toxic. She went down and her heart stopped. They had to do the same thing with our little dog Annie a couple of years later, only not such a hugh amount.
Some farm animals are shot with a bullet in their brains. Depends on the animal and what they are going to do with it, and who the owner is and what the owner wants. Usually if the animal is to be food, it is shot in the brain. The Physical method is a sledge hammer to the top of there head bashing them to death. There is also a Mechanical hammer used in slautherhouse's.
However, that is not consiteded euthanision.
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Oh, on the dog food issue, I think I got lucky when I decided to feed my "little" Chi only raw foods or what we eat ourselves. Although he does not like carrots and peas (like all children it is hard to get him to eat his veggies) and he get's "tired" of the same raw meat so I try and rotate his meats. When I say "little" I mean our stocky (for a chi) 12 pound little man. The raw meat must work wonders!!
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Does anyone actually have an animal that's gotten sick? I see someone had their dogs tested, but no actual illnesses yet.
Our Murphy (kitty), had had some wet Nutriplan not too long ago. About three weeks ago, she was acting strange. All she wanted to do was sleep in our linen closet on top of the towels. I took her out and tried to coax her to eat, but all she wanted to do was climb back into that closet and sleep. She wouldn't purr and wasn't eating (she LOVES her wet food in the morning!) or drinking, and wasn't going poo (we watched when she went to the litter box and she just strained and strained, and finally had a little runny poo). I know my kitty and took her in just because she wasn't acting normal and I just "knew" she was sick. (In fact, she was so sick that she didn't even get car sick like she usually does on the way to the vet!)
Keep in mind, this was BEFORE the recall. She had a fever of 106 (apparently, even for a cat, that's high), and the vet thought she had an intestional bug. She was put on antibiotics (real FUN to give a cat a pill every day! LOL) and is fine now.
I'm wondering if her illness was because of the Nutriplan, and how can I get that $70 vet bill reimbursed! Obviously, she's better now, and I don't have the cat food can any more (like anyone keeps those for better than three weeks!), but I'm curious as to how this will be handled. I have no proof, except timing . . .
So, anyone else have a pet that actually got sick?
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Looking back, we've had three suspicious cases in the last 6 weeks. Two cats and a dog, all under 7 years of age with kidney failure that didn't seem to fit with "normal" age related renal disease or exposure to known toxins, etc. One of the cats survived and was fed food from the recalled list.
The real problem here is proof. While I'm not a big fan of coincidence, I can't say for sure these three were caused by the food.
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cervri wrote:I unfortunally had to have my horse euthanized. When she was "put down" she was given a some blue liquid in her neck. She had to have two and a half since she was so toxic. She went down and her heart stopped. They had to do the same thing with our little dog Annie a couple of years later, only not such a hugh amount.
Some farm animals are shot with a bullet in their brains. Depends on the animal and what they are going to do with it, and who the owner is and what the owner wants. Usually if the animal is to be food, it is shot in the brain. The Physical method is a sledge hammer to the top of there head bashing them to death. There is also a Mechanical hammer used in slautherhouse's.
However, that is not consiteded euthanision.
DeeDee
As a pet lover I find the thought of using a sledge hammer barbaric.
Most death row inmates are now treated better than that.
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cervri wrote:
I think I got lucky when I decided to feed my "little" Chi only raw foods or what we eat ourselves.
Dee, be real careful with the table food. We "got away" with that with our 6 lb chi/pom Poquita for her first four years and then she came down with bloody diarrhea and vomiting and was diagnosed with gastritis. The vet threatened us that she was going to die if we kept giving her table food, we had to get her on a quality dog food. This was a lot easier said than done, by the way. She had refused every dog food we ever tried. Our vet said many of his chihuahua patients are notorious for training their people to spoil them rotten and feed them what they eat. Poquita can have little pieces of lean chicken or meat, but she doesn't do well with beef. Don't let Pancho have any fats if you can help it, no sauces or gravy or stuff like that. Besides the problem of digestive issues, table food can put too much weight on a dog. We finally did find a kibble Poquita will eat and thank goodness, it is not on any haz-mat list.
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Our 6 month old Sheltie went to vet on Saturday. He had been vomiting on and off for a little over a week. At first I though that perhaps he had eaten something (he is a puppy and will eat anything left around)..then he would seem better. A couple of days later..again..he vomited..but I thought maybe he ate too fast. Then he stopped eating..almost three days..just a few nibbles here and there. He seem sort of larthargic, but not overly so. He went for his walks and perked up when my son was home. After reading about this recall on Sat. I took him to vet. Now..he was eating Eukanuba dry. Not the wet. However...today I get a call that I have to bring him back in..he has blood in his urine. White and Red blood cells. They are thinking he has a kidney infection..or the start of kidney problems. They want a "fresh" morning urine sample. They said the sample they took on Saturday was very dilluted. As if he drank alot of water..which he hadn't. I'm worried. We stopped the dog food..since he wasn't eating it anyway..and gave him..at her suggestion..a plain McDonalds cheeseburger. Also because if he had swallowed anything he shouldn't have ..and it was still in his stomach..bread would be the best thing to sort of grab it and help move it along. They did an x-ray on him..and it did appear he had something..who knows what in his stomach and another piece of it in his intestines..moving on outward(so to speak). We go tomorrow morning for another x-ray to see if whatever he swallowed has passed..and for more urine analysis testing. I am very worried. I know it's supposed to have been the wet food..but I don't even believe they are telling the truth. Here we are thinking we are giving him this food that the breeder said was better. The vet said to give him something from Purina. (Actually, she said some of them look good enough to feed her own family!..wouldn't want to be invited to dinner at her house!) Anyway..just thought I'd mention that my pup is having trouble..along with the recall it's got me pretty worried. I'm not giving him the Eukanuba dry or wet..don't trust it.
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I just posted my dog food recipe under a different thread titled "Home-made Holistic Dog Food Recipe." Been using it for years, and it's worked great.
And, Auntie, we'll be thinking about you and your Sheltie, and sending prayers and good wishes your way.
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