audreyv wrote:
...One other change we made was to remove the fresh water tank. We needed storage more than we needed water. We use shore water when in cgs and will use bottled water when overnite drycamping.
Someone had mentioned about putting the co-pilot seat on a swivel. As I assess the Trail-Lite layout, I can't see how that would help us...Thanks for your input and happy camping.
I can appreciate your thoughts on the space taken by the fresh water tank. We have never used anywhere close to the 35 gallon capacity. We only carry about 10-15 gallons cause we are on the move. If we park for a couple days (rare) we connect up to some water faucet. Have thought about removing the tank and replacing with a smaller tank. Here is an example of a company called The Tank Depot. The 10 gallon size seemed to be about right for dimensions. Would have the convenience of working faucets and also gaining storage space....One other change we made was to remove the fresh water tank. We needed storage more than we needed water. We use shore water when in cgs and will use bottled water when overnite drycamping.
Someone had mentioned about putting the co-pilot seat on a swivel. As I assess the Trail-Lite layout, I can't see how that would help us...Thanks for your input and happy camping.
The swivel seat might be nice when more people join us for conversation. With the slide pushed out, we can only seat 7 comfortably. Sometimes it is nice to have an additional 1 or 2 places to sit. By the way, our driver and passenger seats are very comfortable, but we are both tall. We often sit for 5-6 hours straight. We have driven 750 mile days without getting too tired.
2002 Trail-Lite Model 211-S w/5.7 Chevy (click View Profile)
Gene
Did you transit on I-81 or 95 going up the east coast? We generally travel the other roads, but on occasion have gotten on the interstate. When we leave here on 10/23 we will travel 301 & 17 to Yorktown rather that 95 & 64.I occasionally see other B+ T/Ls on on I-81 around Winchester on my daily comute.
Is the Fam Camp at Andrews okay? Yes, it is small maybe 25-30 sites. They are planning to have concrete slabs installed on all sites. Clean bathhouse centrally located, most sites have access for a dish signal, laundry, TV/library/WiFi in the pavilion.
Would you ecommend it? Definitely. And what a location with easy access to the Metro to DC and its attractions. Yesterday we went to Memorial Park. Today we went to the International Spy Museum (3hrs) then to Arlington Cemetery - changing of the guards at Tomb of Unknown Soldiers and the Iwo Jima memorial.
We stayed at NAS Pensacola a few days around Christmas last year and it was excellent. We just recently made reservations for a few days here as well. We have camped there a few times and yes, it is a nice cg. Then plan to go to Keesler/Biloxi for a week. Keesler does not take reservations, you take your chances that there is a site available.
Chas Morristown, NJ
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burlmart wrote:
The British have clear definitions of B, C, and B+:
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They define a camper van, the Class B, exactly like Westronics in the following
What Westronics calls a Class C is similarly called a C Class, or more informatively, coachbuilt, wherein the van body has been left off or removed to be replaced with more spacious and complete living quarters (coach) similar to a small travel trailer (which they call caravans).
The B+ that Wes calls an "undefined marketing term" is very much defined in the Briitish wording:
What we call a B+ is a C-Class in the UK, and "many have overcab beds in the ‘Luton’ but there are also ‘low-profile’ versions of these motorcaravans without the Luton over-cab space and sometimes with a lower roofline, these vans are much more economical on motorways due to their improved aerodynamics."
Most of the pics in my previous post are indeed low-profile Class Cs which is what we call B+ motorhomes.
The British have clear definitions of B, C, and B+:
They define a camper van, the Class B, exactly like Westronics in the following
Westronics wrote:
Here at the Open Roads Forum we use the terms Class B, Class B+ and Class C in a clear and consistent way:
Class B: Built up from a van with minimal modifications to the original van body.
Class C: Built up from a cutaway vehicle - which means the cab is provided from the chassis manufacturer while the rest of the body is manufactured by the MH company.
Class B+: An undefined marketing term. Can be applied to anything from something that looks very much like a traditional Class B but is larger to a very large Class C without an overhead bed.
Here at the Open Roads Forum we use the terms Class B, Class B+ and Class C in a clear and consistent way:
Class B: Built up from a van with minimal modifications to the original van body.
Class C: Built up from a cutaway vehicle - which means the cab is provided from the chassis manufacturer while the rest of the body is manufactured by the MH company.
Class B+: An undefined marketing term. Can be applied to anything from something that looks very much like a traditional Class B but is larger to a very large Class C without an overhead bed.
What Westronics calls a Class C is similarly called a C Class, or more informatively, coachbuilt, wherein the van body has been left off or removed to be replaced with more spacious and complete living quarters (coach) similar to a small travel trailer (which they call caravans).
The B+ that Wes calls an "undefined marketing term" is very much defined in the Briitish wording:
What we call a B+ is a C-Class in the UK, and "many have overcab beds in the ‘Luton’ but there are also ‘low-profile’ versions of these motorcaravans without the Luton over-cab space and sometimes with a lower roofline, these vans are much more economical on motorways due to their improved aerodynamics."
Most of the pics in my previous post are indeed low-profile Class Cs which is what we call B+ motorhomes.
2005 Trail Lite 213 B-Plus w/ 6.0 Chevy
1-I've decided that the extensions for the bed I made should be attached permanently to the outside, so I can fold them into place when it's bedtime instead of raising the box cover.In addition that will free up storage underneath. I have Stanley 'shelf hinges' that I'm going to try and use.
2-I don't like my method of putting the tv on a shelf/bracket for travel. I'm seeking a flatscreen mount and will mount that to a piece of plywood hinged at the top so I can fold the tv up and back from the bottom, and have a clear floor to the tv box. Anyone know anything about those flatscreen mounting brackets? I was thinking about some kind of tilting/articulating technological marvel of a bracket but I don't know if it will take the beating of travel, and I'm concerned about merely screwing the 'wall' side of it into the roof of the tv box with wood screws. The roof of the box is about 20 degrees slope from horizontal.
Thanks all!!
cheeze1 wrote:
Hi Gang, I'm going to do a couple of mods:..
2-I don't like my method of putting the tv on a shelf/bracket for travel. I'm seeking a flatscreen mount and will mount that to a piece of plywood hinged at the top so I can fold the tv up and back from the bottom, and have a clear floor to the tv box...
Thanks all!!
I don't have any pictures, but my original 19" analog TV was completely enclosed in the cabinet above the cab. I carefully removed the screws for the roll-up and the restraining frame around the TV. Removed and gave away the TV. Could not find a good place for a digital/analog converter that would have line of sight to a remote. I carefully created a paper template of the floor in the TV space and made a false floor out of 3/8" plywood. Wanted something a little more substantial to be able to attach a regular 19" digital television. I used the base that came with the TV, temporarily removed the plastic cover from the base, and drilled some holes through the steel plate. Then put 4 bolts through the false floor with threads sticking up. Placed the TV on the bolts and used the self locking nuts to hold the TV on the false floor. So far, works and looks okay.Hi Gang, I'm going to do a couple of mods:..
2-I don't like my method of putting the tv on a shelf/bracket for travel. I'm seeking a flatscreen mount and will mount that to a piece of plywood hinged at the top so I can fold the tv up and back from the bottom, and have a clear floor to the tv box...
Thanks all!!
Those fold away arms are a little pricey for what you get and I could not really find a sufficiently solid place to mount in the correct orientation. The false floor was the easy way, I did put some non-slide between the original floor and the false floor to keep it from moving and making noise.
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Mounting it on a hinge would allow me to adjust the angle for 'laydown' viewing. I understand what you mean about those foldaway arms, I think that's why I want to engineer a custom mount.
cheeze1 wrote:
Is that bump out a bathroom?
Is that bump out a bathroom?
Better late than never
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Yes the bump out is a bathroom.![[image]](http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs150.snc1/5575_1188362753789_1369941973_524612_1502588_n.jpg)
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Artum Snowbird wrote:
As a B+ owner I have written to one or two "RV cover makers" and asked them about getting a cover specifically for our B+ models.
So far, none have replied with a solution. I can buy a class C cover with the typical front end up top box, but getting one to fit a B+ unit is something different again.
And, like others have said, we are just a little offshoot, but like others, this is the only thread that I read all the updates to.
Maybe I just need a bigger garage... Hoooneeeyyyyy!
As a B+ owner I have written to one or two "RV cover makers" and asked them about getting a cover specifically for our B+ models.
So far, none have replied with a solution. I can buy a class C cover with the typical front end up top box, but getting one to fit a B+ unit is something different again.
And, like others have said, we are just a little offshoot, but like others, this is the only thread that I read all the updates to.
Maybe I just need a bigger garage... Hoooneeeyyyyy!
I hear you... After watching the elements destroy our previous RVs, we built a garage for the new one. Turtle Top Touring Coach.
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burlmart wrote:
Thanks, Cheeze. Of all the pics I recently posted, my favorite is the last - it's a Personal Turtle Top that you can customize to your own preference somewhat like Sportsmobile. What could be better!
Thanks, Cheeze. Of all the pics I recently posted, my favorite is the last - it's a Personal Turtle Top that you can customize to your own preference somewhat like Sportsmobile. What could be better!
Through the years I've owned many MH and the Turtle Top is the only one that didn't have any rattles. That is, until I loaded it up with 'stuff'
But to fair, it really doesn't have any drawers and cupboards. Another nice feature is the extra firm foam spec'd for the 2 sofa/beds. Also added middle support legs. It's almost as nice as our bed at home.
I was apprehensive about climbing over one another to get up at night.
While it's certainly not very convenient without a center aisle, we found a compromise that helps somewhat, we actually prefer sleeping length wise rather across, and some nights DW doesn't recline her sofa/bed, which does leave a small aisle.
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