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oregonrv2007

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shoals42 wrote:

Oregon,

Thanks, for the info, I have already though about just dealing with it and taking a $60 monthly hit, via an air card. I think that will be the best thing to do. I have Verizon currently, I have been told it is one of the better services, (though I am thniking everyone may disagree and like theirs the best....) I am planning on going from S. Cal to Oregon to Idaho, Montana, Colorado, Utah, Az. (Mostly National Parks)

What would be best? I like Verizon as it is.


Stick with Verizon for a data card. Sprint claims they have more high speed towers lit up, but as a whole, they are lacking on data coverage. Verizon seems to have done a good job of building out metro and rural areas. In other words, while Sprint may have more miles covered with high speed access, Verizon has more miles covered period. I guess I would rather have some access (even if it is slower) than no access at all.

Hope this helps! By the way, I'd advise not considering AT&T, as their data coverage is dwarfed by Sprint and Verizon. Happy trails!

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One more note...a friend of mine is going through this whole process right now...leaving on a 6 month road trip with a 5th wheel. Apparently Verizon is offering a free air card on a 2 year agreement, or you pay $120 for the card, and that lowers it to a one year agreement. At the same time, you can "suspend" your account for $5.99 per month, up to six months at a time. Just keep in mind when you do this, it pauses your contract term...so beware!

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shoals42 wrote:

I have been reading and there is a lot of info...though I have not seen how to use a blackberry on Verizon's network without having to tether it and pay an additional $60 per month. Actually I don't care if I have to tether it but I just don't want to pay MORE $$$ for internet when the blackberry already has it.

The blackberry already comes with a full unlimited data plan but when I called to find out how to make it work with my laptop, the CS rep. eluded to the fact there are ways to make it work without paying an additional amount monthly.

I really need the internet on the road via laptop, I trade stocks and options daily, so it would really be a HUGE HELP, and let me extend our trips... We are planing on a 2-3month trip this summer.

I have the blackberry 8830 world phone, anyone know what I need to do?


which BB plan do you have the $45 pda/BES plan ? tethering will cost $15 more = $60 total, and you can remove the tether feature when you get home

if you have the NEWer $29.99 BB email & web plan, then the tethering charge is $30, total = $60, again you can remove it when you stop traveling

since you have a BB you must have some kind of data plan, you cannot get a BB on vzw without a data plan,

it is NOT $60 more, and an aircard will require a contract with $60 a month plus the extra taxes & fees that go with extra phone number

you trade stocks, any addition to your cell phone/BB bill is a business expense

there is NO hack for tethering a BB without paying, the BB OS is very very secure

yes 'pay as you go' is a data plan.. and if you are pauo then you must switch to a regular plan with tethering option, $60 total, the BB can not sneak in the 1x backdoor, this has to do with having a BB and the account required and the fact that the BB OS is not hackable by the avg or even above avg user


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Mr. Wizard,

I have the $45BES plan with my blackberry, It is the unlimited plan (when they offered it back in Aug. 07) though the rep has said it is still capped at 5gigs monthly. I don't use that now, though with my direct access platform I may be close when on the road....anyway

Is the speed and transfer rate the same as a air card, using the blackberry thethered? I talked to a rep about a month ago and they said to activate the thethered feature it was an additional $60 monthly on top of what I currently pay for data (I think thats what he said.)???? I will have to call later and confirm

Oregon,

I looked at the card because it was "free" with a 2 yr contract. Though I don't need it for 2 yrs...and 120 for a year is still more time than I need, so I am torn. though I am thinking now it may be better to just tether it, and it will be less overall. Verizon is my favorite so I will stick with them.

Thanks again for all your reponses...I will be looking for more info soon.


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any rep that told $60 MORE is mistaken, it will cost $15 more for the tethering addon, and yes the speed of the BB tether should be the same as the aircard

I used the NEW HTC touch for 3 weeks, with the $45 PDA plan and tethering add on, and it was very quick, much faster than a Phone using the 1x back door

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yes the speed of the BB tether should be the same as the aircard

maybe in 1xrtt areas, but there is no way a tethered blackberry will be the same speed as a Rev-A aircard since blackberrys are all Rev-0.

Rev-A data devices will especially leave any blackberry in the dust when it comes to uploading/sending files. Rev-0 has hardware limit of 150kbps upload, and Rev-A has no such hardware limit... with many people seeing 800+ kbps upload.

for instance: http://evdomaps.com/Fastest+Uploads

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how many aircards are RevA ? AFAIK not too many, certainly NOT all of them

my brand new HTC touch is RevA hardware with Rev0 software limits and if I want to change it, i have to flash the radio ROM with a new cooked ROM

i'm not a day trader with 2 or 3 PC's tracking stocks all day

and i doubt that the OP's is either or has the absolute need for RevA speed, also in real life use, not speed test, the RevA makes more difference in uploads and game response, due to differences in latency not as much difference in dl's or other things, streaming video certainly, stock tracking, depends on much data is in the real time feed ?

I'm not disputing the Speed attainable with revA

i am disputing your comment that a BB on rev0 is not faster than a cell phone on 1x, when we both know for a fact that it is faster.


I've seen several of your posts, and I will assume all of your personal gear is hacked and tweaked to the max, NOT stock off the shelf OEM verzion working status

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MrWizard wrote:

how many aircards are RevA ? AFAIK not too many, certainly NOT all of them.
all of the currently available devices from sprint and verizon are most certainly rev-a. in fact the last rev-o device from verizon was the v640 expresscard, which came out in fall of 2006, nearly two years ago. every data device since the v640 (the last 8-10 devices) has been Rev-A.
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I'm not disputing the Speed attainable with revA
i am disputing your comment that a BB on rev0 is not faster than a cell phone on 1x, when we both know for a fact that it is faster.
no, what i was trying to say is that any rev-o blackberry would be as fast as any rev-a device, in an 1xrtt coverage area, because 1xrtt would be the limiting factor.
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I've seen several of your posts, and I will assume all of your personal gear is hacked and tweaked to the max, NOT stock off the shelf OEM verzion working status
thats funny. there really isn't anything i know of to hack evdo hardware... aside from making it work when nobody else could (like with mac osx), the verizon hardware i use is in fact "bone stock".

i've seen many of your posts as well, and continue to be in awe of your handset and voice plan knowledge... but since i deal with data devices all day every day, i believe i have more experience with those toys.

i stand by what i said, having tested many blackberry and other handsets in Rev-A coverage... they are close when it comes to downloads, but get left in the dust when it comes to uploads. thats all i was trying to point out.

some folks who have to decide between handsets and data devices, may care more about upload speed, simply because they may have to send photos somewhere on a regular basis. for those folks, a Rev-0 handset is at a disadvantage over any Rev-A device (handset or data device)

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Need advice. Only need internet access for maybe 3 trips a year for 1 week to 2 months. Can't justify or afford air card for $60 a month for 12 months. Sounds like from reading here that I might could use the cell phone tethered to laptop using Broadband Access Connect with Verizon, prorated @ $14 a week. Is that accurate and is that the best option for me? Does Verizon want a 2 yr contract for Broadband Access Connect as well as @ 2 yr contract on the phone service? How does that work if you are adding and deleting the data service. Do you contact them to add or delete the data service or can you do it your self on line?

Does ATT offer similar option?

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i stand by what i said, having tested many blackberry and other handsets in Rev-A coverage... they are close when it comes to downloads, but get left in the dust when it comes to uploads. thats all i was trying to point out.

some folks who have to decide between handsets and data devices, may care more about upload speed, simply because they may have to send photos somewhere on a regular basis. for those folks, a Rev-0 handset is at a disadvantage over any Rev-A device (handset or data device)


I agree about the differences in rev0 vs revA upload speed, that just didn't seem to come across in your other post.

as far as BB vs aircard, yes REV0 upload speed vs revA aircard upload, there will be a difference

I think will matter more too those uploading large hi-res pix and other documents, than to the avg Rv user

@cramalot
there is NO contract required to add data/tether Broad Band connect use to you phone plan

you can do it from my verizon/my account online or you can call CS on the phone and have it added

of course you need a phone capable of doing this ( most of them ) and the cable for connecting, some people use Blue tooth, but i find a cable has faster transfer speed than BT and the phones battery life/connection time is longer via cable over BT ( BT uses more battery POWER for the BT transceiver ),plus the cable for my voyager and my xv6900 charge the phone while plugged in, so i can use them for hours and charge the battery while i'm at it

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