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Posted By: Leeann on 08/29/14 04:53pm

Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

Leeann wrote:

So,you have the lean-burn carb, yes?

More likely a two-barrel BBD. That's what my '77 B200 318 had. Float adjustment is tricky and they have a tendency to leak and sink.

Valve stem seal is a definite starting point for solving oil consumption/burning issue.

The '75 El Dorado with 360 we started with came from CA and had the lean-burn carb. That thing was a total POS.

'73 Concord 20' Class A w/Dodge 440 - see profile for photo

Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/29/14 05:09pm

Leeann wrote:

Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

Leeann wrote:

So,you have the lean-burn carb, yes?

The '75 El Dorado with 360 we started with came from CA and had the lean-burn carb. That thing was a total POS.

True, the lean burn carb (and system) was a failed experiment. Best bet is to chuck it and put a different non-lean-burn carb on.

BTW, some types of alcohol, such as that used in 'gasahol' and some gasline antifreeze, eats up the seals in older carb, especially the BBD. I rebuilt my BBD four times before I found out the yellow HEET I was using religiously was the cause.

Also, the seals in some older carbs tend to dry out and crack if they haven't been used in a while. (That's why I always rebuild donor carbs before using them.)

1970 Explorer Class A on a 1969 Dodge M300 chassis with 318 cu. in. (split year)
1972 Executive Class A on a Dodge M375 chassis with 413 cu. in.
1973 Explorer Class A on a Dodge RM350 (R4) chassis with 318 engine & tranny from 1970 Explorer Class A

Posted By: rehoppe on 08/29/14 08:41pm

Tmmltn wrote:

We have a 360. This is our very first V type engine, we are used to 4cyl vehicles. But none of those can haul a home with them. Lol.

Thx Beniam;;;; I thought Tx was cheaper.

Tmmltn;
How many miles on the engine? Reason I ask is my PU (1976), with a 360 in it, needed a timing set at 75,000 miles or so. It also punched / wore through 2 rockers at the end of the push rods. It'd be good to do the timing set and check the rockers for wear while you are doing the valve stem seals.

Nice looking rig... by th way.

Hoppe
2011 Dodge 1500 C'boy Caddy
2000 Jayco C 28' Ford chassis w V-10 E450
Doghouse 36' or so Trophy Classic TT

Posted By: Tmmltn on 08/29/14 11:36pm

I am not sure on the "lean burn" carb, we think it is the 2210 or 2245 style. Here is the pic i got from the non compliant carb:

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It is super clean, being installed 9/12 (68,262 mi) in NV... to remedy an overheating issue ("overheated, then died, then ran fine" per paperwork); at 68,513mi, 4 days later in CA, it was smogged and failed hardcore with: modified (visual) egr, disconnected vacuum lines, fuel cap was not functional (replaced, as DH left it at the gas station when we bought it... i wanted to anyway, forced hand.), "other emission related", functional egr, and ignition timing "24 btdc". Idle RPM was 919, yesterday was fluctuating 1300-1400. Hydrocarbon ppm was 2934 (no current data yet), co% was under 1.0 at idle (.35) and under load (.60). Handwritten note saying "blue smoke at SNAP test".

When we inspected it, we found, as mentioned, a non CA carb, luckily the old carb was still onboard and looked functional. DH swapped them out, I did the vacuum hoses, while disconnecting the vacuum tree installed for the "speed control" system we are removing (oh my... that was horrid looking:
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)
Also found a broken "ccegr valve", or as napa called it, a "port vacuum switch" (obviously fixed), that had been capped and re-routed.

Since yesterday we have:
Put seafoam in the gas tank and crankcase, and replenished coolant in the radiator system. Spark plugs checked - likely carbon deposits on new-ish plugs but not horrible, will be replaced (suggestions on type?), I had DH pull the EGR off and check it, it seemed ok. Today it was left running curbside for a minimum of 1hr, idle and rev, DH adjusted idle down.

Current mileage is 68,986.
I really want to get it CA smog compliant before leaving because we have such strict laws, i am a "tree hugging hippie" so the better this ol' girl is for the air, the better I feel taking her all over.
DH did notice the temp gauge took a long time to respond while on for so long today, i have been prodding him to check the thermostat but he has been reluctant, he agrees now that it needs checking, i suspect that is part of our issue.

Rehoppe, thanks for the compliment, we fell in love when we saw her (vintage lime green!) and know she will be worth the investments.

~Windy

* This post was edited 08/29/14 11:43pm by Tmmltn *

Posted By: Leeann on 08/30/14 08:23am

You really need to check the t-stat. If it's taking a long time to warm up, that totally screws up proper operation of your engine and you'll get nasty emissions.

Also, the idle is way high. Our 440 idles about 610 RPM; your 360 should idle about 700 RPM when warm.

The 2210/2245 are the series of carbs I was talking about from my '75 with 360. Give me a minute; I have the service manual around here somewhere.

In the meantime, I have a service note on those carbs. For proper operation, you need to put a dab of epoxy on them. Something about air or gas leaking…I can't remember now, it's been so long, but here's the pic:
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Found the manual - here's the download link:
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/767c0c16

Posted By: Leeann on 08/30/14 08:32am

Found an exploded diagram in my stash, too:

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Posted By: whiteknight001 on 08/30/14 11:10am

Leeann wrote:

I'll kick you, Mark [emoticon]

Just kidding…pretty awesome, isn't it?

Hey Leeann

I'll even keep one eye open for "in-flight video" lol!

I mean... I joined this forum and asked the question that
started this thread on 15 Aug. 2004, so it's ten years in,
and with 600 pages, it averages out to 60 pages a year. That's
an active thread...

I would shudder to think how many folk have viewed these
pages, and how many people like you, Griff, and others continue
to keep it rolling...

Just one request- please pick a good "broken-in" pair of boots...
them fancy pointy toed Pradas might hurt... lol!

your mentally ill friend in OK

Mark/whiteknight001

1972 Mobile Traveler 20' Dodge B300 Class C
"The Kobayashi Maru" Trans- Prarie Land Craft
"Requiescat in pace et in amore..."

Posted By: Leeann on 08/30/14 04:05pm

Mark, I don't own and Pradas. I have cowboy boots; do those count? Maybe I should put on the Timberland work boots instead...

[emoticon]

Posted By: Tmmltn on 08/31/14 01:20am

Leeann wrote:

Found the manual - here's the download link:
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/767c0c16

I am drooling over the 65 pages of info in that thing. Omg.

After seeing this this afternoon i took a pic of the ca carb, the point it shows to fix is evidently sealed off? In this one.
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I am certainly going to spend tomorrow (technically today) analyzing/comparing vacuum diagrams.

Posted By: Tmmltn on 08/31/14 01:27am

whiteknight001 wrote:

Leeann wrote:

I'll kick you, Mark [emoticon]

Just kidding…pretty awesome, isn't it?

This thread is the reason I joined this forum. Thank you for starting this 10(!) Years ago! Now I just need to keep in mind it is public when I ramble on lol.

I have no fancy shoes. If I have my way, i am barefoot. When the ground is hot, flip flops.
Once i had fancy nails... i still tore into my motor. [emoticon]

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