oldtrucker63 wrote:
That battery that is setting on the concrete floor That is not very good on a battery to set on the concrete or on the ground it will mess them up quick.
That battery that is setting on the concrete floor That is not very good on a battery to set on the concrete or on the ground it will mess them up quick.
Not any more. They've improved the casing (just by making it plastic). That's from the old days
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Leeann wrote:
Not any more. They've improved the casing (just by making it plastic). That's from the old days
Cool leeann I did not know that...Thanks.
oldtrucker63 wrote:
That battery that is setting on the concrete floor That is not very good on a battery to set on the concrete or on the ground it will mess them up quick.
That battery that is setting on the concrete floor That is not very good on a battery to set on the concrete or on the ground it will mess them up quick.
Not any more. They've improved the casing (just by making it plastic). That's from the old days
Without Trucks,....America Stop's
Still, I'm happier to set my new battery on a piece of wood for a minute.
Trish Davis wrote:
Still, I'm happier to set my new battery on a piece of wood for a minute.
Still, I'm happier to set my new battery on a piece of wood for a minute.
I keep a couple of inexpensive plastic marine battery cases around to store batteries that aren't in use. Then, if the battery happens to puke, I don't wind up with acid all over everything.
1970 Explorer Class A on a 1969 Dodge M300 chassis with 318 cu. in. (split year)
1972 Executive Class A on a Dodge M375 chassis with 413 cu. in.
1973 Explorer Class A on a Dodge RM350 (R4) chassis with 318 engine & tranny from 1970 Explorer Class A
Fact or Fiction
Well, is it true? Will a battery be damaged or discharged by letting it sit on concrete? NO!
Why then do so many people believe that concrete is a battery enemy? Years ago, batteries could have been electrically discharged by sitting on a concrete floor. My dad, for instance, owned an automotive shop for many years. In fact, I grew up on a creeper. My dad reminded me time after time, "Set that battery on wood! I know batteries discharge on concrete because I’ve witnessed it!" And he was right at that time.
Historical Basis
You see, the myth that concrete drains batteries does have some historical basis. Many, many years ago, wooden battery cases encased a glass jar with the battery inside. Any moisture on the floor could cause the wood to swell and possibly fracture the glass, causing it to leak. Later came the introduction of the hard rubber cases, which were somewhat porous and had a high-carbon content. An electrical current could be conducted through this container if the moist concrete floor permitted the current to find an electrical ground. The wise advice of the old days to "keep batteries off concrete" has been passed down to us today, but it no longer applies because of the advanced technology of today’s batteries.
Today’s Technology
For more than a decade, automotive and commercial battery containers have been made of polypropylene, which is a highly insulative material. In fact, the Interstate Batteries poly material is at least five times more insulative than the old hard rubber. Also, tremendous technological improvements have been made in the seals around the posts and the vent systems, which have virtually eliminated electrolyte seepage and migration.
Battery Discharging
The fact is, all batteries self- discharge whether they’re sitting on the shelf or on concrete. This is why we regularly rotate your inventory. As the temperature increases, a battery’s self-discharge level also increases. Some lead acid batteries discharge 4% - 8% per month at a temperature of 80°F. The level of self-discharge is also contingent upon the type of lead plate alloy plus the age and cleanliness of the battery.
If the battery has a surface layer of acid or grime, which is electrically conductive, it self-discharges more rapidly. This surface layer may actually allow you to measure the DC voltage across the battery’s poly case (using a 10 meg-ohm digital voltmeter). For that reason, we recommend that you always keep batteries clean, whether they’re in storage or in a vehicle.
Grandfather Clause
You may now be thinking that you know more than your grandfather, who tells you that batteries stored on concrete will be damaged. Next time your grandfather says that, I recommend that you just say "Okay" and continue about your business. I’m a grand-father now, and I know that we like to have our way and we like to be right. If my grandson, for instance, tries to tell me that concrete won’t damage a battery, you know what I’ll say? I’ll say if you drop a battery on concrete, it will be damaged.
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....I like that part.
Soon we may see the twelve volt system disappear and a new standard, the 42 volt system will become the standard. This will allow plenty of power for the miriad of devices that make up modern cars.
Trish Davis wrote:
Come to think about it, in '78-'79 when I worked in Sears garage as an installer on batt & electrical (Leeann oughtta get a laugh out of that and, yes, there may be a book one day)
Come to think about it, in '78-'79 when I worked in Sears garage as an installer on batt & electrical (Leeann oughtta get a laugh out of that and, yes, there may be a book one day)
Are you kidding? I'm crying I'm laughing so hard....
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