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Griff in Fairbanks

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Posted: 06/27/19 07:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Oh, yeah ... change fluid and filter at least every two years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. More often if you regularly haul heavy loads or tow heavier trailers.


1970 Explorer Class A on a 1969 Dodge M300 chassis with 318 cu. in. (split year)
1972 Executive Class A on a Dodge M375 chassis with 413 cu. in.
1973 Explorer Class A on a Dodge RM350 (R4) chassis with 318 engine & tranny from 1970 Explorer Class A


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StingrayL82 wrote:

Ballenxj wrote:

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It’s possible but I’m not the only one who has had that problem with the 46RE

I guess I'll drive mine until either that happens, the wheels fall off, or I sell it. But mine still has less than 72K on it. [emoticon]


Mine had 76,000 when it went.

OUCH! I'm cringing now. [emoticon]
Griff, if I keep the OD turned off (except on freeways), can I expect better longevity then?
I just had the trans fluid and filter changed before it turned 70k. The guys in the transmission shop said it looked like new inside.
Yikes. [emoticon]


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Ballenxj wrote:

StingrayL82 wrote:

Ballenxj wrote:

StingrayL82 wrote:


It’s possible but I’m not the only one who has had that problem with the 46RE

I guess I'll drive mine until either that happens, the wheels fall off, or I sell it. But mine still has less than 72K on it. [emoticon]


Mine had 76,000 when it went.

OUCH! I'm cringing now. [emoticon]
Griff, if I keep the OD turned off (except on freeways), can I expect better longevity then?
I just had the trans fluid and filter changed before it turned 70k. The guys in the transmission shop said it looked like new inside.
Yikes. [emoticon]

It should look new. If it's cloudy, brown, or smells slightly burnt, you may already have problems.

Running empty on the highway is okay. You don't want it constantly in and out of overdrive. If that starts happening, turn off overdrive. In town and on short trips, I'd turn off overdrive. I'd always turn off overdrive if I'm carrying or towing a load.

Driving style matters too. Hard on the throttle causes OD thrashing.

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Yep, I was taught “tow in drive, keep the tranny alive” - in other words, turn off OD.


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Hi hoping everyone is doing ok.
Thought I should come by because I'm kindof stumped on whats going on with my 1977 Dodge B300 again.
Been having a brake pedal not returning problem for awhile and just now got to addressing the situation. Pulling back the pedal with my foot released the brakes no problem.
Today I installed a new master cylinder and brake booster and still brake pedal not returning.
I greased all the pedal linkage at an earlier date but never was the problem.
The front calipers are new as well as the rear drums with the whole brake kit was installed last year.
I have not bled the brakes yet as I run out of time and have not started it because battery was dead and had no cables.
So my question at this point is would not bleeding the brakes cause a non returning peddle? I'm doubting it but at a loss as to why no peddle is not returning still. I adjusted the booster rod to what I think is good several times but not in possession of the proper measuring device, I simply backed of the rod just a bit from where it contacted the master cylinder
Thanks

* This post was edited 06/28/19 06:00pm by my440 *





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my440 wrote:

Hi hoping everyone is doing ok.
Thought I should come by because I'm kindof stumped on whats going on with my 1977 Dodge B300 again.
Been having a brake pedal not returning problem for awhile and just now got to addressing the situation. Pulling back the pedal with my foot released the brakes no problem.
Today I installed a new master cylinder and brake booster and still brake pedal not returning.
I greased all the pedal linkage at an earlier date but never was the problem.
The front calipers are new as well as the rear drums with the whole brake kit was installed last year.
I have not bled the brakes yet as I run out of time and have not started it because battery was dead and had no cables.
So my question at this point is would not bleeding the brakes cause a non returning peddle? I'm doubting it but at a loss as to why no peddle is not returning still. I adjusted the booster rod to what I think is good several times but not in possession of the proper measuring device, I simply backed of the rod just a bit from where it contacted the master cylinder
Thanks

When was the last time the brake system was expertly flushed, refilled, and re-bled? (I'm guessing never ... and they should be flushed at least every 10 years, preferably every 5 years.)

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Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

Ballenxj wrote:

StingrayL82 wrote:

Ballenxj wrote:

StingrayL82 wrote:


It’s possible but I’m not the only one who has had that problem with the 46RE

Griff, if I keep the OD turned off (except on freeways), can I expect better longevity then?
I just had the trans fluid and filter changed before it turned 70k. The guys in the transmission shop said it looked like new inside.
Yikes. [emoticon]

It should look new. If it's cloudy, brown, or smells slightly burnt, you may already have problems.

Running empty on the highway is okay. You don't want it constantly in and out of overdrive. If that starts happening, turn off overdrive.

Driving style matters too. Hard on the throttle causes OD thrashing.

I already knew about turning the OD off when either loaded, or in hilly country, but thanks for the warnings. Reminders are always good, especially at my age. [emoticon]
FWIW, My friends 98 Dodge has (I think) the same transmission as mine, with around 176 k on the clock.I'll have to ask him, but I think he's been trouble free?

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PS, just did an exhaustive research on the web pertaining to the 46re trans. Some say the Dodge transmissions are a **** shoot, but a lot of that depends on maintenance, and in particular, the fluid you use.
Here's a quote I pulled from one of those websites.
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Depends on maintenance really...it's particular to the fluid you use. Many companies use unique fluids (honda, nissan, ford, toyota...) as does the 46re (requires minimum ATF+3 or +4). Many shops, even some dealers, will simply uses a less expensive universal fluid such as dexron, and simply use a bottle of additives to bring it up to the specs of ATF+4...this usually doesn't work though.

Basically what happens is this...use a fluid that's not recommended, and the transmission clutches and bands slips a little, for which the computer tries to compensate for...this leads to increased wear, more slippage, and greater tightening. In the old "ultra-drive" days (chryslers first computer controlled transmission), failure could occur within 30 miles of the fluid change....

Changing it back can help...when the wrong fluid was used in the old days, the computer had to be reflashed...not sure that this is the case now.

They used to blame the failures on a number of things...primarily not enough fluid circulation in O/D, particularly to the O/D unit itself (there were "fixes", but this wasn't the case), and a check-ball within the trans cooler line that tended to gunk up...turns out, they were misreading the cause of the failures...it was the fluid.

Basically, if you look up an R/T and it's got a good working trans then it should be fine...when you have it serviced, make sure actual ATF+4 is used when flushing the trans.

I'm glad my transmission guy was adamant about using the correct fluid. [emoticon]

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Ballenxj wrote:

PS, just did an exhaustive research on the web pertaining to the 46re trans. Some say the Dodge transmissions are a **** shoot, but a lot of that depends on maintenance, and in particular, the fluid you use.
Here's a quote I pulled from one of those websites.....
I'm glad my transmission guy was adamant about using the correct fluid. [emoticon]


I only run ATF+4 in my 727. The guy who rebuilt it for me said that, short of finding Dexron II that isn’t degraded from age, no other ATF will work well. I asked him about Ford Type F and his response was, “It’s good for a few passes down the track.”


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Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

my440 wrote:

Hi hoping everyone is doing ok.
Thought I should come by because I'm kindof stumped on whats going on with my 1977 Dodge B300 again.
Been having a brake pedal not returning problem for awhile and just now got to addressing the situation. Pulling back the pedal with my foot released the brakes no problem.
Today I installed a new master cylinder and brake booster and still brake pedal not returning.
I greased all the pedal linkage at an earlier date but never was the problem.
The front calipers are new as well as the rear drums with the whole brake kit was installed last year.
I have not bled the brakes yet as I run out of time and have not started it because battery was dead and had no cables.
So my question at this point is would not bleeding the brakes cause a non returning peddle? I'm doubting it but at a loss as to why no peddle is not returning still. I adjusted the booster rod to what I think is good several times but not in possession of the proper measuring device, I simply backed of the rod just a bit from where it contacted the master cylinder
Thanks

When was the last time the brake system was expertly flushed, refilled, and re-bled? (I'm guessing never ... and they should be flushed at least every 10 years, preferably every 5 years.)

Hi Griff
The system was flushed last fall and again today and bled after the install of new booster and master cylinder. All seems good now. Thanks

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