rhagfo
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smcrea wrote:Hi All,
I have got to add my 2 cents worth to this gas vs diesel discussion. Having just got my first diesel (a 2015 F350) and having towed our trailer with a Suburban for 5 years I have to say that I am totally awe struck by this diesel!
All I can say is it's dangerous!... you forget that you are towing anything! We just returned from our first trip. We went almost 13000ft straight up in the rockies and the only time it dropped out of 6th gear into 5th was because a BMW slowed us down!
I'm SOLD.. I will NEVER go back to a gas engine for towing! :-)
Don't know what you are towing, but I tow 11,000+ (19,500# CVW) with a 15 year old Ram/Cummins that has about 100 less HP than the new trucks and 285,000 miles, and we tow hills great, can't imagine the difference you feel.
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I have enjoyed catching up on my reading. I just found this discussion. Interesting reading. I have been looking at the F250 diesels. I probably don't need one but I don't need a TT either. Lots of good information here. Thanks to all.
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smcrea
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TNRIVERSIDE wrote:I have enjoyed catching up on my reading. I just found this discussion. Interesting reading. I have been looking at the F250 diesels. I probably don't need one but I don't need a TT either. Lots of good information here. Thanks to all.
Hi TNRIVERSIDE, Our TT is only a 27" and weighs in at around 7000Ib loaded. An F350 Powerstroke is admittedly an overkill for this weight of trailer. I seriously need to remind myself that I'm towing anything!
However we opted for this so that it gives us 'options' if we ever want to trade up to a 5th wheel sometime in the future.
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smcrea...that choice is in my mind, a good one. Yea, a bit overkill for 7k lbs...but then once the kids are gone and its mama and yerself... a nice 35' 5th with all the luxuries is nice to have.. but given said 5th's wheel pin weight will likely be in the 2K+ range, you'll be so glad you went with a 3500.
It's all about the suspension and tires you put underneath it.
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rileybrake wrote:Depends on the climate you live in as well. I live in Canada where it can dip to below -40C. Its all well and good if you have a heated to garage to park in but without it... you better plug it in at the very least and not shut it off once its running. Also the newer ones you need to add DEF which is kind of a pain.
That's right. no wait I have a heated garage (park my gasohol vehicles in it too) AND a "plug in". Good to go.
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smcrea
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Steakman wrote:smcrea...that choice is in my mind, a good one. Yea, a bit overkill for 7k lbs...but then once the kids are gone and its mama and yerself... a nice 35' 5th with all the luxuries is nice to have.. but given said 5th's wheel pin weight will likely be in the 2K+ range, you'll be so glad you went with a 3500.
It's all about the suspension and tires you put underneath it.
Cheers,
stk
We thought about that as well! :-)
It could go either way.. If we become full or semi full timers then a nice 5th would be great!
Or if we don't and we just want to go and visit the kids somewhere then maybe a camper for the two of us.
Either way I think that we are good to go.
The biggest decision was short or long bed.. We chose Short, but long does have advantages. But IF we did get a camper then you can get them that are pretty tall and stick out at the back.. plenty big enough for the wife and I!
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One thing...
Although the fuel tank is about the same size as our GMC suburban, and although the fuel economy towing is about twice as good as the Yukon 14mph vs 7mph.
We do feel that having some extra range between fills would be nice. We know about the bed mounted Aux tank, but with a short bed we really don't want to lose more bed space.
I'm not sure if you can get Auxiliary underneath mounted fuel tanks for the F350 Short bed? I saw one that required removing the spare wheel. Then you have the problem of putting your spare somewhere!
If anyone knows of an Aux tank that somehow finds some space underneath then please let me know!
Or even an enlarged replacement tank???
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Steakman
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check out ...
Titan Tanks
I put one on my 2500 HD: 52 Gallons instead of the stock 29 I think it was. Polyethylene - fits in the OEM spot underneath without ANY modifications to the frame or crossmembers...Not sure of pricing in USD..couple of years ago I paid 1200 installed in Calgary (with the skid plate - also Poly as well)..well worth it in my opinion.
I also have a 30 gallon slip tank I had built for under my Aluminum Tool Box...its simply Tee'd into my fill tube and I use a 1/2" manual ball valve to drain into the Titan. I figure I can go about 1700 miles on a full fill.... MT truck though.
cheers,
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Steakman wrote:check out ...
Titan Tanks
I put one on my 2500 HD: 52 Gallons instead of the stock 29 I think it was. Polyethylene - fits in the OEM spot underneath without ANY modifications to the frame or crossmembers...Not sure of pricing in USD..couple of years ago I paid 1200 installed in Calgary (with the skid plate - also Poly as well)..well worth it in my opinion.
I also have a 30 gallon slip tank I had built for under my Aluminum Tool Box...its simply Tee'd into my fill tube and I use a 1/2" manual ball valve to drain into the Titan. I figure I can go about 1700 miles on a full fill.... MT truck though.
cheers,
stk
This is great!... THANK YOU!
50 gallons is quite an improvement on range.. especially when towing!
It's a bit pricy though!.. Can you get anything back on your old tank? and who would buy it?
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They are pricey no question...but worth it in my opinion. Particularly in this scenario.
I travel from a low tax jusridiction (Alberta) to a high tax jusrisdiction - BC and with both tanks full can do a 10 day vacation with little to no fill up, depending on how much driving in the area.
They are really the only option I know of... and for a short box the best alternative.
Other thing - given you have a short box....when you do go 5th Wheel, take a good look at a PUllrite Super Glide hitch...also pricey, but priceless in its operation...
As for the old tank... scrap value I would think.. although you could put it up on craigslist or kijiji...ya never know.??
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