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Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
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Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
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transamz9 wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
You might want to narrow that blanket statement down a little. My '94 F150 with 300cid I-6 easily out towed my '95 Cummins powered Ram. My '05 Hemi powered 2500HD had the edge on all for of "my" Cummins powered Rams. The newer diesels are a different story.
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Hannibal wrote:transamz9 wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
You might want to narrow that blanket statement down a little. My '94 F150 with 300cid I-6 easily out towed my '95 Cummins powered Ram. My '05 Hemi powered 2500HD had the edge on all for of "my" Cummins powered Rams. The newer diesels are a different story.
He said if money wasn't and issue that he could build a gasser to out pull a diesel. I'm saying using the same money the diesel will still out pull his blown gasser.
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transamz9 wrote:Hannibal wrote:transamz9 wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
You might want to narrow that blanket statement down a little. My '94 F150 with 300cid I-6 easily out towed my '95 Cummins powered Ram. My '05 Hemi powered 2500HD had the edge on all for of "my" Cummins powered Rams. The newer diesels are a different story.
He said if money wasn't and issue that he could build a gasser to out pull a diesel. I'm saying using the same money the diesel will still out pull his blown gasser. X2
It is all about compression. If the "unlimited money" gasser is going to compete with the diesel then it would have to run off AV gas (aviation fuel) and run at about 14:1 compression. The costs would outweigh the benefits. Maybe we could put a gas drag motor in a dually and go for 1/4 mile runs and it would beat a diesel... just stupid!
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transamz9 wrote:Hannibal wrote:transamz9 wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
You might want to narrow that blanket statement down a little. My '94 F150 with 300cid I-6 easily out towed my '95 Cummins powered Ram. My '05 Hemi powered 2500HD had the edge on all for of "my" Cummins powered Rams. The newer diesels are a different story.
He said if money wasn't and issue that he could build a gasser to out pull a diesel. I'm saying using the same money the diesel will still out pull his blown gasser.
How's that? Gas engines are more powerful that diesels unit of displacement to unit of displacement. What will the built diesel do to out pull the Gasser, somehow manage to run above 3,500 RPM?
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OhhWell wrote:transamz9 wrote:Hannibal wrote:transamz9 wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. I wouldn't care about mpg or even longevity of the engine for that matter with unlimited money.
But if you compare what the factory offers from the showroom floor the diesel does have better pulling power. Not near as much as many on here would lead you to believe but an advantage none the less. But you do pay for it. That doesn't make the diesel a better or worse choice but when it comes to pulling power it does have the advantage.
Dollar for dollar you won't out pull a diesel on the street. You might out run it but you won't out pull it.
You might want to narrow that blanket statement down a little. My '94 F150 with 300cid I-6 easily out towed my '95 Cummins powered Ram. My '05 Hemi powered 2500HD had the edge on all for of "my" Cummins powered Rams. The newer diesels are a different story.
He said if money wasn't and issue that he could build a gasser to out pull a diesel. I'm saying using the same money the diesel will still out pull his blown gasser.
How's that? Gas engines are more powerful that diesels unit of displacement to unit of displacement. What will the built diesel do to out pull the Gasser, somehow manage to run above 3,500 RPM?
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Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. If I had unlimited money no it would not. their are plenty of diesels trucks in the 9sec class, and I have never, ever, seen one at a pulling event attached to the sled
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jevanb wrote:JnJnKatiebug wrote:
I have been saying this for years. If you are towing every week, then without a doubt, get a diesel. If, like yourself, you will be towing once every two months get the gas. I bought a diesel MH, not for the engine, but for the air brakes, air ride and towing capacity. I don't tow but maybe 2k a year, I bought a diesel truck because I wanted to go fast on the strip (12.1 at 108.1/4) last year, cant stand cars. No way I could of did that in a gas truck unless I put over 30k into a new motor/trans. I can tow my buddy`s LS camaro to the track, run a few times and than tow him back home
Actually...I wonder what a new Ram 1500 could do at the drags. 390HP Hemi, 6-speed trans, 3.92 limited slip. Don't expect getting 12's from that (or an Ecoboost) would be too hard!
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jevanb wrote:Taco wrote:Diesel will not always be better.
If I had unlimited money a big block turbo gas truck would eat a diesel trucks lunch when it comes to pulling. If I had unlimited money no it would not. their are plenty of diesels trucks in the 9sec class, and I have never, ever, seen one at a pulling event attached to the sled
Do any street driven diesels run 7's? Gas engines do!
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