Hannibal
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Excellent post hutchman! Here's wishing you many years and miles of great service with your new Dodge Cummns!
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transamz9
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Yes hutchman, congrats on the new Ram! Your '06 had nothing wrong with it other than the transmission was being protected by the computer. Rams with the Cummins in those years were programmed to only use 80% of the torque until set time. Learning how to drive it is what the problem is. The 6.0 in the Ford is the same way. I reprogrammed my '05 to put 100% out as soon as you hit the throttle and it is very hard to drive (uncomfortable) You fell every little peddle movement. They really have these new trucks tuned really good now days to harness all the low end torque but still very drive-able.
The GM 6.0 gas is a very good strong running motor, they just run very hard to keep a heavy load going. I had an '02 and loved the truck and loved the way it ran unloaded........well that's about it.
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LOL, and no, I did not read all 360 pages, but let me state some basic physical property facts.
Power (watts) = Torque (N-m) x Angular Velocity (rad/sec)
Power, or HP, is the rate of energy consumption, or delivery, and cannot be measured directly.
Torque is a rotational force that can be measured directly.
Angular Velocity (tire speed) can be measured directly.
So HP is a derived or calculated value.
It is interesting to note that in the equation above, that HP cannot be a constant unless the torque slope and velocity slope are inverses of each other.
This means an increase in HP at a given RPM automatically means an increase in torque at that same RPM, so these two values are not mutually exclusive.
So to argue about which is better, or worse, really requires Torque vs. Velocity, and HP vs. Velocity, graphs so a visual of where these values peak and how they change can be observed.
Gas vs. Diesel is moot without this data applied to tow/drag/fuel economy/etc... applications.
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transamz9
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So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
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ken white
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transamz9 wrote:So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
LOL...
It can't be since it can't exist without torque and velocity...
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Hannibal
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ken white wrote:transamz9 wrote:So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
LOL...
It can't be since it can't exist without torque and velocity...
And without both torque (force) and rpm (velocity), together kanown as horsepower, there will be no motion.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
Torque is a component of horsepower. Horsepower is the value that determines how fast we tow.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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Hannibal wrote:ken white wrote:transamz9 wrote:So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
LOL...
It can't be since it can't exist without torque and velocity...
And without both torque (force) and rpm (velocity), together kanown as horsepower, there will be no motion.
Torque is a component of horsepower. Horsepower is the value that determines how fast we tow.
Man, I sure wish we could leave it at that and get back to arguing about fuel economy and cost of ownership.
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transamz9
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Hannibal wrote:ken white wrote:transamz9 wrote:So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
LOL...
It can't be since it can't exist without torque and velocity...
And without both torque (force) and rpm (velocity), together kanown as horsepower, there will be no motion.
Torque is a component of horsepower. Horsepower is the value that determines how fast we tow.
So if it is all about hp and speed and numbers, answer me this. How fast will 350 hp pull 80,000 pounds down the road on level ground?
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transamz9 wrote:Hannibal wrote:ken white wrote:transamz9 wrote:So in other words, HP ain't everything, right?
LOL...
It can't be since it can't exist without torque and velocity...
And without both torque (force) and rpm (velocity), together kanown as horsepower, there will be no motion.
Torque is a component of horsepower. Horsepower is the value that determines how fast we tow.
So if it is all about hp and speed and numbers, answer me this. How fast will 350 hp pull 80,000 pounds down the road on level ground?
The problem with this question is many fold....
Gear ratios, tire diam, even the tread type, aerodynamics of the rig, How may tires, width of the tires, type of ground you are on, ie concrete vs asphalt vs lose gravel vs tar/pebble vs.............
All of these issues and MORE will decide the final speed of a rig!......we can go into tranny types too, alt size, AC or not, on or off.........
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About twice as fast as 175 hp. Without horsepower, you're not going anywhere.
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