Jarlaxle wrote:

I love diesel trucks and own one...it's almost certainly my last. They have just gotten too complicated, finicky, delicate, and expensive. It's not worth it anymore.

Taco wrote:

If you look at all the diesel vs gas posts not just on this thread but all of them you will notice something. The diesel guys always talk about how happy the diesel makes them feel, or how they can't stop grinning. They talk about their truck with emotion. The gas guys generally talk more about cost of ownership and potential repair costs. The gas guys rarely talk about their feeling toward their trucks.

I think this really separates the two. I look at vehicles as "equipment" not as status symbols not as something that makes me happy or stokes my ego. I look at what it costs to purchase, own, and will it do what I need it to do, meaning get me, my family, my toyhauler, and misc hauling where I need it to go at a reasonable rate of speed and safety.

I think I may very well be more smiley or amused with a diesel towing than a gas truck but I don't look for amusement out of "equipment" it is just a tool. A means to an end. There is no one that can say that my gas truck won't put my 10k worth of load on top of every public paved highway hill that a diesel will. it might not win EVERY race that I don't know I'm in with some coal roller that has something to prove.

But as a purchaser of equipment I cannot justify the initial purchase cost, ongoing vehicle tax liability and potential elevated repair costs that a diesel brings.

If you have the money and want a diesel or think the smiley factor is important to you get a diesel. If you just want to get the job done as economically as possible and tow less than 12-14k lbs I would seriously consider gas.

Taco wrote:

If you look at all the diesel vs gas posts not just on this thread but all of them you will notice something. The diesel guys always talk about how happy the diesel makes them feel, or how they can't stop grinning. They talk about their truck with emotion. The gas guys generally talk more about cost of ownership and potential repair costs. The gas guys rarely talk about their feeling toward their trucks.

I think this really separates the two. I look at vehicles as "equipment" not as status symbols not as something that makes me happy or stokes my ego. I look at what it costs to purchase, own, and will it do what I need it to do, meaning get me, my family, my toyhauler, and misc hauling where I need it to go at a reasonable rate of speed and safety.

I think I may very well be more smiley or amused with a diesel towing than a gas truck but I don't look for amusement out of "equipment" it is just a tool. A means to an end. There is no one that can say that my gas truck won't put my 10k worth of load on top of every public paved highway hill that a diesel will. it might not win EVERY race that I don't know I'm in with some coal roller that has something to prove.

But as a purchaser of equipment I cannot justify the initial purchase cost, ongoing vehicle tax liability and potential elevated repair costs that a diesel brings.

If you have the money and want a diesel or think the smiley factor is important to you get a diesel. If you just want to get the job done as economically as possible and tow less than 12-14k lbs I would seriously consider gas.

OhhWell wrote:



That's true, I've never really had a big grin on my face towing with my Gasser. I am however very relaxed as it is a big truck and tows my regular sized TT very well. The grin factor would be nice if I pulled over mountains though. I do realize that. For everyday grin factor, I just drive my little Mini Cooper S.

I do get a smile on my face though with the truck when it is raining real hard and I get to play in the puddles or when I take it through some loose sand.

Crazyfoe wrote:



I grim every time I drive my gasser over the hills and far away.

rhagfo wrote:



Do you still grin when you need to stop twice as often to fuel up as a diesel?

Stop and think about that cost of operation, with gas at about $3.70 a gal, and Diesel at $4.10 that is only a 10 percent difference in cost of fuel, and if I get 12 mpg and you get 7 mpg, that is 40 percent better fuel mileage, I am making up the cost difference and then add the higher resale, and I just keep grinning!

I would like to undersand where gas drivers get that diesel has higher maintenance cost, oil changes only need to happen at most half as often as gas, so that becomes a push with almost twice the amount of oil.
No regular scheduled tune ups, belts, hoses, and coolant about the same as my old 460 gasser.

Once again Diesel isn't for everyone, that is just a fact, but don't slam it just because you don't want it, don't slam it.

I pull about 12K 18.5K GCVW, and would not want to do with a gas engine.

rhagfo wrote:



Do you still grin when you need to stop twice as often to fuel up as a diesel?

Stop and think about that cost of operation, with gas at about $3.70 a gal, and Diesel at $4.10 that is only a 10 percent difference in cost of fuel, and if I get 12 mpg and you get 7 mpg, that is 40 percent better fuel mileage, I am making up the cost difference and then add the higher resale, and I just keep grinning!

I would like to undersand where gas drivers get that diesel has higher maintenance cost, oil changes only need to happen at most half as often as gas, so that becomes a push with almost twice the amount of oil.
No regular scheduled tune ups, belts, hoses, and coolant about the same as my old 460 gasser.

Once again Diesel isn't for everyone, that is just a fact, but don't slam it just because you don't want it, don't slam it.

I pull about 12K 18.5K GCVW, and would not want to do with a gas engine.