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Posted: 08/15/04 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Meanwhile, in the real world, diesel engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.


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Although I prefer diesels and I think they make better haul and tow vehicals that doesn't rule out gassers won't get the job done. They somtimes can get the job done somtimes even faster but at a cost and that you will notice at the pump. I recall when I drove school bus and next to my shop is Laidlaw Transportation where they auction off the used school buses they are all diesels. But I can remember going to school many years ago riding in a big old yellow GMC and that was a gasser it probable had an old trusty 366 or 427 four bolt main 4 ring piston tall deck big block. At 3:00 o'clock when school got out I can recall 30 of those GMC gassers lined up ready to take all the school kids home. They always seemed to get all us kids to and from school day after day year after year. I am just glad they started making diesel school buses late 60's and by the 70's the gas school bus was obsolete. Because if they haddn't there wouldn't be a drop of gas left on the planet.

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Meanwhile, in the real world, diesel engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

Meanwhile, in the real world, gas engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

That argument goes both ways. There are still a lot of military equipment designed and built with heavy duty gas engines under the hood. The operative phrase in your statment is "because that is what they are designed to do". You can design a heavy duty diesel engine and you can design a heavy duty gas engine.

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Meanwhile, in the real world, diesel engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

Meanwhile, in the real world, gas engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

That argument goes both ways. There are still a lot of military equipment designed and built with heavy duty gas engines under the hood. The operative phrase in your statment is "because that is what they are designed to do". You can design a heavy duty diesel engine and you can design a heavy duty gas engine.

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BS, show me a gas engine the size of this diesel .


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Although I prefer diesels and I think they make better haul and tow vehicals that doesn't rule out gassers won't get the job done.

I agree but Burt thinks a 335HP 6.0 Suburban will out tow a 320HP 8.1 Suburban and anyone who upgraded from a 6.0 to 8.1 knows that is not true.

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BS, show me a gas engine the size of this diesel .

Show me where I said that there were bigger gassers than diesels, joe. I simply pointed out that there have been and still are large heavy duty gassers out there.

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I agree but Burt thinks a 335HP 6.0 Suburban will out tow a 320HP 8.1 Suburban and anyone who upgraded from a 6.0 to 8.1 knows that is not true.

I have never said that. I simply pointed out that the 6.0 produces more power than the 8.1 when both are installed in a Suburban and that the 8.1 still had a larger cooling capacity than the 6.0. Normally, the higher the HP, the more cooling capacity required.

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Meanwhile, in the real world, diesel engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

Meanwhile, in the real world, gas engines all over the world move heavy loads because that is what they are designed to do.

That argument goes both ways. There are still a lot of military equipment designed and built with heavy duty gas engines under the hood. The operative phrase in your statment is "because that is what they are designed to do". You can design a heavy duty diesel engine and you can design a heavy duty gas engine.

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What present HD military truck bigger than a half ton is gas powered?

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What present HD military truck bigger than a half ton is gas powered?

To the best of my knowledge, there are no US military vehicles that fit that description, but the British, French and a few others still produce APC's (and other, smaller, vehicles) that are either gasser powered or have an option of gasser or diesel. The gasser is slowly disappearing, though. I recently read an article where the British were replacing the Jaguar gasser engines in some of their equipment with diesels so that they could meet the European emmissions regulations.

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I agree but Burt thinks a 335HP 6.0 Suburban will out tow a 320HP 8.1 Suburban and anyone who upgraded from a 6.0 to 8.1 knows that is not true.

I have never said that. I simply pointed out that the 6.0 produces more power than the 8.1 when both are installed in a Suburban and that the 8.1 still had a larger cooling capacity than the 6.0. Normally, the higher the HP, the more cooling capacity required.

Bert

Don't try to weasel out of this over the cooling system, so what if the 6.0 had a larger cooling system ?

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