BertP
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firewood58 - There is a post of mine on the first page of this thread that outlines why I deceided to buy a diesel now. I had always planned on buying one, but not for another couple of years. I can now say that I made the correct decision. I am in Anahiem at the mement and I have to say that since I don't like sitting behind a high revinng engine, my new DMax did well by me since my old 6.0 liter would have been turning at high rpm's for a fairly large portion of this trip. The DMax spent a fair amount of its time on this trip at high rpm which is still only 3000 rpm, but it does scream fairly well at that rpm.
Joe - Your statement "600 pounds-feet of torque at 1,600 RPM vs 450@3200 rpm shows that the diesel is the engine that doesn't need the pedal mashed to the floor." begs the question: At what throttle position do you think your diesel is producing 600 ft lb of torque? Hint: Any lower and you would dent your firewall.
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rwtotrailerlife
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I am looking at used trucks to tow a fifth wheel. Does anyone know the pro's and con's of the Ford V/10?
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PSDExcursion
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Quote:Joe - Your statement "600 pounds-feet of torque at 1,600 RPM vs 450@3200 rpm shows that the diesel is the engine that doesn't need the pedal mashed to the floor." begs the question: At what throttle position do you think your diesel is producing 600 ft lb of torque? Hint: Any lower and you would dent your firewall.
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japar
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In my experience I went from a 89 Ford 351 HO gas to a 90 Ford 7.3 Diesel both 3.55 gears both automatics both over 200,000 miles both cost $1000. In my case the diesel wins hands down in every deptmentment for me for pulling, economy and just driving local. I get 4-5 better mpg with the diesel no matter what I am doing. To get more power in a gas engine I would have to step up to a 460 gasser. a great engine ton of power but we are talking 7-8 mpg. To get more power from my diesel I can install a turbo get more power and better mileage at the same time. Do understand we are talking trucks 15 years old and that the newer trucks both gas and diesel have greatly improved and that the newer gas engines get way better mileage than years ago. Over the years I drove and owned all kinds of trucks and recall buying my first diesel a 83 ford F-250 6.9. I was told by the mechanic who used to work on the truck to pass but I used intuition and took a chance and never looked back . In my honest opinion if all you ever owned or drove were gassers I don't think you are even qualified to reply to this post even if you own a HOT ROD HEMI that you think is the badest truck on the planet SWEEEEET !
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BertP
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Joe - I am asking a simple question. You stated that there is a diesel that produces 600 ft lb of torque at 1600 rpm. All I am asking is if we assume that that number is the max torque producable by that engine at that rpm, what do you believe is the throttle pedal position when the engine is producing that torque at that rpm?
japar - I agree with almost all of you post. But, I don't think that your statement that people who have never owned a diesel have no right to post to this thread. The idea of this thread, as I understand it, is to debate the relative merits of the diesels and gassers. If someone has decided against buying a diesel. I am interested in his/her logic behind that decision. I may or may not agree with the logic, but I am interested in hearing it.
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PSDExcursion
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Quote:Joe - I am asking a simple question. You stated that there is a diesel that produces 600 ft lb of torque at 1600 rpm. All I am asking is if we assume that that number is the max torque producable by that engine at that rpm, what do you believe is the throttle pedal position when the engine is producing that torque at that rpm?
About the same as a gasser at 1600 rpm, partial throttle. Since you have a Duramax I can't believe you even have to ask the question.
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BertP
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Quote:About the same as a gasser at 1600 rpm, partial throttle. Since you have a Duramax I can't believe you even have to ask the question.
What kind of engine I have is irrelevant. In order for any engine to develop its max torque, it must be at wide open throttle. Otherwise, the power it is producing is at some level below max.
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PSDExcursion
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Quote:Quote:About the same as a gasser at 1600 rpm, partial throttle. Since you have a Duramax I can't believe you even have to ask the question.
What kind of engine I have is irrelevant. In order for any engine to develop its max torque, it must be at wide open throttle. Otherwise, the power it is producing is at some level below max.
Bert
Look at this and see that after 2000 rpm the torque starts to drop on my 6.0 PSD. So at 2000 rpm I am at my maximum torque and that is were my rpm's are in OD when towing at about 65 mph.
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Savanna
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Here is some food for thought I own a lincon navigator it gets 13.8 mpg towing a pop up camper. My dodge 3500 CTD gets 14.5 pulling our 35' 5er !!! I love both vechiles , with gas prices what they are
$2.14 for lincoln and 1.71 for the dodge we are gonna suffer and take the 5er from now on lol ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile") Thanks for all the informative posts !! We bought our Dodge purley on the fact that my hubbie has a love affair with Dodge after we bought it decided it need some toys like a 35'5er a 30' cabin cruiser a 48' race trailer .So from that aspect that truck was way expensive !! LOL But its a 96 and the only thing mechanicle that has needed fixed was a new clutch (Due to a clutch riding wife So when it finaly goes to the junk yard in the sky we will definatly replace it with its like. In the mean time the Lincoln is up for sale.
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BertP
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Quote:Look at this and see that after 2000 rpm the torque starts to drop on my 6.0 PSD. So at 2000 rpm I am at my maximum torque and that is were my rpm's are in OD when towing at about 65 mph.
I didn't question at what rpm any particular engine develops its max torque or HP. I just asked what the throttle position would have to be at a praticular rpm in order to develop the max torque at that rpm. In order for your PSD to develop its max torque at 2000 rpm, it must be at WOT. If it is not, it will not develop its max torque.
Bert
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