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ddosses

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Posted: 12/01/05 09:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wish I would have read your message before we bought our first motor home this fall. I did the research, and we purchased just what we were looking for. We found a nice used low mileage Fleetwood Bounder. Problems started when I relied on the dealer telling us everything was in good working order. It wasn't, and we didn't find out until after taking delivery. Nothing real major, but the power converter was burned out, and the generator had never been serviced and was very low on oil. we did not take an extended warranty, so the dealer would do nothing for us even though I called them the very next day after delivery. Oh, and the delivery was rushed because they were closing early. I learned a very good lesson.

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ddosses Sounds as if you bought from Tom Raper RV in IN. Terrible, office, service and parts divisions. Sales tries to work with you, but their hands are tied and so are yours. By the time you find out they have your money. In fact they are dumber than a box of chipped marbles. So it's buyer beware for sure. Been there done that.

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I will tell you that the most important part of taking delivery of a new or used unit is the inspection. I recently learned the hard way.

One thing that you can do to assist you in learning what it is that you do not know is watch the video.

Many of the RV manufacturers provide a video for the new owner. If your inspection/walk-through starts with the video you are more likely to know what questions to ask and will have a general idea of how things should work.

Note: Dealers will ask you to do the paperwork first then inspect the unit. Turn it around and do the inspection first. If they can not make the repair(s) at that time, get a “We Owe” slip that identifies the item to be replaced and the time frame for the work. Do this before you sign and take delivery of the unit.

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Went out today to upgrade from TT to "A". Wow,luckily I didn't sign a thing. I think I will need to spend many days looking over MH's and trying to get dealers that will work with me not knowing if they're going to make a sale. Thank you for posting the comprehensive report. It sure opened my eyes.





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ke4d wrote:

Libby and I sold Rvs for about 18 month during an interlude in our fulltime lifestyle. We learned lots about buying and selling RVs. In our experience, many folks buy simply on emotion. Many folks trade perfectly good rigs for new rigs where you get to go through the "shakedown" phase again. While we don't object to that, it certainly puts a nice hole in your bank account. We are not likely to ever buy another new rig. We have had three new ones and three used ones. There is just way too much loss in buying new. As an example, we sold new diesel pushers. The list price was around 200k. We were paying about $145k for those rigs and selling them for between $150k and $165k. Many folks came in to trade a year or two old rig and found they owed more on their old rig than we were selling the current new version for.
We ran into folks who would tell us that the last time they traded, the dealer gave them more for their old rig than they paid for it. Simply not true. The dealer just didn't discount the new rig as much as he could and showed their trade to be worth more than it really was to make the deal.
We tried to treat our customers like we would want to be treated. It paid off because in our 18 months, we had a number of repeat customers. Libby had one customer who bought three rigs from her in that time span.
We think the bottom line on buying a class A or any other RV for that matter, is to make sure it fits your lifestyle. If you are fulltimers like we are, then the house is probably more important than the chassis and engine. If you are a weekender or vacation type traveler where you travel often and stay only a night or two at one place, then the moving aspect of an Rv could be more important. We don't care how the rig is closed up, we move once in a while and stay a long time.
No Rv has everything any buyer wants and the moderator is absolutely correct in stating that you need to list your wants and needs. Wants are one thing, needs are something totally different.
Needs determine what your rig should be like, wants are what you might spend some extra bucks on.
While there are lots of tips I could give on buying an Rv, I would just remind you of a few things.
1. Extended maintenance contracts are money makers for the dealership. If you are buying a new pusher the engine, chassis and tranny are going to be covered for 5 years on a new rig.
2. Never expect to get all your money out of a trade. It depreciates faster than you can pay it off. (paying cash is a good way to deal with that)
3. New rigs, no matter what you pay for them, have problems. Used rigs may or may not. Talk to the previous owner if possible. Find out why they traded the rig.
4. Buy at the end of the month. Dealers want to close out the month and often are getting ready to wholesale used rigs. If they wholesale a rig, they won't get wholesale, but something less. Make an offer.
5. Never buy the first time you see rig. You will be buying on emotion. The national average is 5 visits and 4 and a half months for a person to buy a new rig.
6. Remember, this is a depreciating asset, not an investment. Its to have fun and enjoy yourself. If you are looking to invest, buy real estate!


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i am a new in the motorhome world and think you have some very good information and helpful tips this whole web site is great.

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We are Newbies, getting ready to purchase our first motorhome (a DP)after a year of study and research (including driving our top choices). We just joined the Forum today, but we've been "listening in" for 9 months! We're greatful for the opportunity your site has provided in teaching us an enormous amount about a variety of topics!! I remember reading a post from someone several months ago, saying they wanted to buy their third motorhome first!! That is what we're hoping to do also. So, our top choice (of what we can afford) is the Monaco 40 PDQ Camelot 2006. Options we feel are important -- 7' of height (one of us is 6'4"), king bed, auto generator start (Reagan expects AC and heat when left alone), Hydro Hot (Canada, mountain trips planned), auto dig satellite, RV sanicon, and 3-camera rear vision. What about the air leveling option? I've read the threads on the 3-point Monaco levelers, and now I'm thinking we should go for it. Any one have personal experience? Also, any advice about NC dealers---the choices are Tom Johnson or Todd's RV???


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2+YORKIE - You"ll probably have to post a new thread, not many of the old timers go to this poat to se what's happening.

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Thought this is wonderfully written and provided alot of information. Thank you.
We currently have a travel trailer and are looking to upgrade to a class A. We plan on using it over the next 5 years for a couple long camping trips per year and occasional weekend outings. After that we're going to probably move to a less crowded state, and use our motorhome to travel part of the year.
From what I've read many people spend months and months looking for the perfect motor home, but we've found one that will both fit our needs and has almost all of the amenities we want, with a nice layout, in just a couple of days of searching. At least we think we have.
One of the coaches we're considering is the Sea Breeze by National.
Has anyone had any experience good or bad with this coach or with this company?
I can't seem to find any indepent comaprison's between different motor homes so not really sure which ones are the most reliable, the safest, and with the most amenities for somewhere around 100K.
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks


Gary, Serena, Monte(JRT), Roxie(Long Hair Dachsund) Haylee(Goldie Mix)
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ChinoBob

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Seabreeze is a great motorhome. I have been researching for months now, and finally decided on a Hurricane. For the money I wanted to spend, I think it gives great bang for the buck. Seabreeze was more $$$, but well built and great value. This thread was great. I really enjoyed reading it. I am new to this forum, new to the rv'ing world and really looking forward to it! I just can't wait to get the bugs out. Do you ever get the bugs out???

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