T GALL
BLACKSTONE MA.
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well i don't have that anwser, i am still trying to figure out how the msrp can be 90,000.00 and they can sell it for 70,000.00
i am guessing there is about a $30,000.00 mark up. the dealer i am dealing with told me they have an independence 32 ft. for $77,000.00
and a pursuit 35 ft. for $70,000.00
they say they payed the same amount for both huh. you tell me.
good luck we all need it
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Pusher
Albuquerque, NM
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I retired from the Air Force in 77. We had our plans so bought a house, poured an extra concrete drive way next to the house to park a Airstream trailer when we decided to buy. Than decided we did not want a trailer and decided on Class A. When we were in our late 50's we started to look for Class A's and found that they had grown in height and would not fit in a carport next to the house. We knew what we wanted and it took 5 years to find just the one with all the major items we wanted. It was older than we wanted but had low mileage and fit the carport. Other than age it is perfect. We are now correcting all the little things that prove that the designers of RV vehicles have never lived in one for any length of time.
Good luck and do your research and take what your friends tell you with a grain of salt. They probably do not have the same requirements as you do.
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wrchilson
Colorado Springs, CO
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For one, I am grateful for your advise on the first time buyer. My wife and I will pick our Class A up a week from Monday. Your advise is to stay in the dealer lot after pickup and check each system is exactly what we planned to do. We have been working this deal for about 6 months and again you are right. Don't rush, take you time. There is a lot of time available. Thanks again.
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np551
sun city center, fl
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Did you check www.rv.org?
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bklemek
Hollister, Ca.
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Here’s my two cents!
My wife and I purchased are first Class A 7 years ago. We are in our early Forties. We have 4 boys starting at 14 yrs- 22 yrs. They commonly go with us on our trips but not all the time. We like getting out on the road at least 1 time a month with 2 15 day trips a year.
We decided to limit the amount we spent on the MH to about 30-40K and a max size of 34 feet to see how we liked it. It was affordable and easy to sell if it didn’t work out. After dealing with this 93 Southwind DP for three years, we learned what we liked and didn’t like and what type of adventures we were going on ie. ( lots of driving, or lots of time parked in a RV park or trying to get into small restricted campgrounds with size limits or just always lots of people with us!) My office manager a year or two after stepped up and purchased a brand new Fleetwood Excursion 39S 3 slides DP at about 165K.
Well, we found that the Bigger the better and too many slides ( two living room slides) make it hard to travel for big mileage trips ( 4500 miles in 10 days) but nice once you have landed! and what kind of extras you would like and what extras are useful, expense in fuel and power to climb hills, tow.
The real nice thing is that we easily sold our MH, lost very little money on it, and purchased the unit that best fit our habits, we all have different likes in a MH and the first time out you can’t know everything that will make your adventures in RVing the most it can be. So I think starting slow and be in the mind that you may only keep your first rig for maybe 2 years and work your way up, it’s a safe way to do it.
My manager has owned their 39S for 2 years and wouldn’t buy the one they have again, not because of problems but thing they thought was important when they bought it and found that now after 2 years the thinks they liked 2 years ago they just don’t use and find the coach falling short of their needs. They can’t sell the unit very easily and will lose a sizable amount of money when they sell, they are now shopping for a unit that is a better fit for them now.
I’m not done movin-up. But each year I’m learning more and more, and before I drop the BIG MONEY DOWN on a real nice rig, I’ll have the experience to make a good decision.
My 2 cents!
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geezerstreetrodder
Pacific Grove CA USA
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Excellent review. I just started looking at the forum and it appears that I may have made a big mistake on my purchase price. I just signed a purchase order at an RV show for an 05 34' Monaco Monarch. Even considering the extra tradein (they gave me $8000 for a 95 27' l slide fiver) I'm still only going to get about 10% off msrp. It appears that 25% is the going discount, no? What do I do now - renegotiate, since I haven't yet signed a contract, only a brief "purchase order"? Coach is still at factory and due at Calif. dealer around Feb.1 (They did agree to add a hideabed free and a backup camera for "only$1000"). Any advice would be appreciated.
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JohnnyT
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Doug, It does not sound like you got a very good deal. I would suggest you initiate a thread with a post similar to this but with a few more specifics..Did you give the dealer a deposit?
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spacey1
Jacksonville, Florida
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This topic was so helpful. I am a new camper and a member of Open Road Singles, a singles camping group, and sure wish I had known a lot of this stuff too before I bought so I knew what to look for. I have had great experiences with mine though, however, some of our newer members are looking for camping experiences and/or advice. This is great and I am passing it along...
[COLOR=white].......................[/COLOR]Single? check out [b][url=http://groups.msn.com/OpenRoadsSingles]MSN Groups Open Roads Singles[/url]
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wave
near Medicine Park, Oklahoma
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Nice review Johnny. I think your points are well taken and I would add that you can apply them to "Used" as well as "New". You do need to be well informed to play this game (new of used) and remember the most important aspect of your purchase is not slides or decor it is the chassis. Short wheelbases under 54% of the overall length are often purchased without question from the buyer.
Some advantages of "Used":
You may not have to deal with a "dealer" - which appeals to some.
Bugs will be worked out if the unit is used very often - not so of new.
You can get much more for your dollar. High end diesel pushers without a slide are the best bargins around right now.
Selection choices are as endless as new.
Front end depreciation was paid for by the 1st buyer not the second.
That first scratch won't hurt nearly as much.
My advice would be to forget the extended warranty and dealers. The savings will be from 50k to 100k on a high end coach which will fix everything inside and a new series 60 Detroit Diesel as well. Regardless of how you start out - we are all driving used now.
wave
PS: here is an example -it has more features than most 2005 coaches (except the slide) - original msrp about $500,000 purchased 6 yrs later at $160,000
http://irv2.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2358&sort=1&cat=all&page=1
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Wandering Elk
Los Gatos, CA
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Hi,
I am looking for a hierarchy list of manufacturers and their respective models compared to various manufacturers. Class A gas and Diesel are my target area. Do you know of any such list or where I can go to find one.
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Wandering Elk
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