DoubleTap830

Victor Valley, CA

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I am afraid I have to once again add to this thread. Nothing would make me happier than to stop posting here.
RV particulars: Itasca Suncruiser 33V
Driveline: 8.1 W-20
Miles: 3978
Year: 2004
Break Down Description: Engine lost power topping a 7% grade, all the lights on the instrument cluster came on and all the alarms sounded. Went into reduced power mode and limped off to a stop on the right shoulder on US 66 between Kingman and Peach Springs AZ Sept 22, 2004
Symptoms: All dash warnings came on and power went away.
Effect: Had to pull over in an area with no cell service and stop.
Cause: Unsecured secondary grounding strap from the factory
Outcome: Turned off the engine and did a visual inspection of the engine. Everything looked fine including temperature. Started it back up, ran fine except orange " check engine " light stayed on. Kept driving another 16 miles watching gauges until I got cell service. Called my dealer "Range RV Victorville, CA" they were no help. Told me to have it towed to the nearest Workhorse service center 186 miles away in Flagstaff. Called the 800 number on my Workhorse card, they connected me with a technician. He had me crawl under the right front wheel and pull off the air cleaner cover and check for major dirt or blockage and mass air flow sensor connector wiggled loose. That wasnt it so he had me turn off the ignition for 2 minutes, then turn the key from dead off to start and back 5 times in 10 seconds. That reset the orange trouble light. He advised me to have fun on my trip and have my dealer download the trouble code history when I got home. No further problems that trip. which was 1400 miles.
I got back home and turned the rig in for service. They found a ground strap which was not bolted to anything. There were 21 trouble codes saved in the PCM which made no sense, so they dug deep and found the hanging grounding strap.
Waiting now to pick it up from service. 29th day in the shop in the first 9 weeks of ownership.
God Bless workmanship.
Workhorse says Winnebago must have disconnected the grounding strap during the coach build and forgot to reconnect it before roll-out.
'04 Itasca Suncruiser 33V, '05 Scion xB toad
'66 Wife ( Low mileage/high maintenance )
2 Noisy kids and a worthless chihuaha
( Just kidding, I love the dog )
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EngineerMike

Auburn CA, Havasu AZ, Mulege BCS MX

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Rig: 96 Safari Trek on 95 (OBD1) chassis
Driveline: 6.5L TurboDiesel (GM) w/4L80E tranny, 23.5K miles
Symptom: started sputtering, then over next 300 miles, got worse till it wouldn't run reliably.
Troubling factor: we were 650 miles south of San Diego
Problem: electronic fuel injection
Problem getting a good diagnosis: GM service rep in La Paz stated elegantly, "We never sell dat chit down here." (He was referring lovingly to EFI, they have plenty of diesels, just not electronics).
Fix: return to USA to get OBD1 computer & spare parts; return to Mexico to try parts & read computer codes; return to USA to get new electronic injection pump; return to Mexico to install.
Moral: for 6.5L GM diesel, subscribe to TheDieselPage.com, and keep a good sense of humor well oiled. And of course, take spare EVERYTHING to Mexico.
See y'all in Yucatan in '06.
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captron33

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I have a 2000 Mtn. Aire.ford v-10. About once a year I get the amber ck. eng.soo mssg. Does anyone have a fix besides going to ford to clear it???? Thanks Capt. Ron
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faucet1

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RV particulars: Itasca Sunflyer 36L
Driveline (Engine, Chassis,Transmission): 275 ISB 5.9, Freightliner, Allison md3060
Miles: 31,000
Year: 1999
Break Down Description:
Symptoms: Low air pressure
Effect: can’t drive
Cause: Air Dryer filter mounted under the spin-on filter disintergrated causing valve in bottom of air dryer to remain open.
Outcome: Replaced both spin-on and inter-filter located just under spin-on. Also had to replace the lower outlet valve. Total cost of parts about $180.
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RCL

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You don't state what chassis you have, but my Holiday Rambler with a Freightliner chassis exhibited a similar problem. Turns out that there are 2 circuit breakers located just above the frame rail on the passenger side near the engine. When you draw too much current, these breakers heat up and open up. In a minute or so, they reset, leaving no trace of what happened. This happened to me about 4 times, and HR was at a loss. A call to Freightliner quickly resolved the problem. One of the breakers had gotten "weak" and would open up, cutting the lights, engine, gauges, etc. It happened at night the first time, and I coasted to the side of the highway. I replaced that breaker and the problem went away.
Hope this helps,
Dick Lucas
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boondockrookie

FL

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RV particulars: Foretravel FX350 Diesel Pusher
Driveline (Engine, Transmission): 3208 Cat, Allison 4 speed
Miles: 144,000
Year: 1981
Break Down Description:
Symptoms: Overheated on Interstate. Temp guage topped out. Smoke & steam trail.
Effect: Immediate pull over & shut down situation.
Cause: Blown Radiator heater hose
Outcome: Lucky. Hose blew right next to radiator. After the engine cooled down I removed the hose at the radiator, cut off 4", (the part with the hole) and reattached it. Then filled the radiator with fresh water from my tank and I was back on the road. Oddly enough, I had just had the RV serviced and told them to replace any worn belts or soft hoses. At my first opportunity I replaced the broken (repaired) hose myself, and added anti-freeze/coolant. Good thing too, because the hose had another bubble that was ready to burst.
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Mike Lutz

Rochester, Mn USA

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Please consider the truck stops and islands labeled "MH". In the island they dispense gasoline and diesel using the traditional "GREEN" fuel dispenser. The pump had 3 black and 1 green. The green nosel is traditionally for diesel! I accept full responsibility for my error in not checking. This cost $1400 (40 gallons or gas removed from diesel tank) to get service to have the fuel removed and re refined ! The service rep informed me it happends every day because people mistake the green nosel as a diesel dispenser!!! Pay close attention or pay a dear price.
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CMeyer

Walnut Creek, CA

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RV particulars:
Driveline (Engine, Transmission): Safari Kenya, Cummins B5.9, Allison 4 speed, Oshkosh chassis
Miles: ~20k
Year: 1992
Break Down Description: We lost the power steering on our 34-foot Safari as we turned north from east bound I-86 onto I-15 at Pocatello, Idaho, in September 2000. We continued north towards Idaho Falls while trying unsuccessfully to locate a shop that was open on Saturday afternoon. Then when I stopped on the shoulder (to ask for help from a helpless state trooper), the automatic parking brake locked up and we were down and out. The Good Sam operator then dispatched Hendrickson’s Pro-Tow from Idaho Falls.
Ron Hendrickson and his son James arrived promptly, dropped the drive shaft, and towed us to Lake City International Trucks, Inc. in Idaho Falls. Ron even gave us his home phone number and told us to call any time, even at 3 AM, if we needed anything! We found an electrical outlet and plugged in to keep the batteries charged and waited for Monday.
Monday morning, Jeff Schow of Lake City International checked out the problem and concluded that an RV service center would more familiar with the system. He called Eagle Rock RV Service Center, which dispatched a mechanic to free the parking brake and guide us to their shop. Meanwhile, Jeff had our drive shaft reinstalled. He would not charge us for this or for the electricity we used, but said we would just have to charge it up to their good will towards getting us on our way!
John Henry, the owner of Eagle Rock, and his wife and staff treated us well, allowed us to stay in the RV inside the shop, and tolerated our dogs while waiting for the parts to arrive. John even let us use his brand-new pickup to go shopping! By mid-day Wednesday we were on our way again. Cost was slightly over $1000.
Breaking down in a strange place is not a pleasant experience. However, the people we encountered were nothing but pleasant and helpful. If you have to break down, Idaho Falls is a good place to do it! Good Sam’s Emergency Road Service came through for us too.
Symptoms: Lost power steering and after stopping, power brakes locked up.
Effect: Initially very hard to steer, then unable to move.
Cause: Power take-off to hydraulic pump stripped on both ends.
Outcome: Required 2 components, one available in Pocatello, the other had to come from Reno. The parts supplier in Reno despite charging for expedited service, didn't manage to get the part to UPS, costing an extra day down-time. Have had no further problems with this, but wonder if it was under-designed!
Seems like breakdowns fall into the catagories of bad luck, someone's screw-up, or possible systemic problems with a make, model, component, or the like. Can't do much about luck. The screw-ups, whether by owner or "service" people, can help up all to learn how to avoid the same problem, but generally don't relate to a problem with the particular rig. The biggest benefit of this effort might be to identify the systemic problems, which seems to be the original intent. Might be worth sorting the tales of woe into such catagories to make it most useful.
Colton Meyer
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OLD EASY

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BADEYE:::: AFTER READING ABOUT THE 1ST 10 PAGES OF YOUR POST I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT:: If I stay away from DP's GM's And Workhorse chasis and get a v-10 and not drive it in the rain I can get rid of my break-down Insurance,I check all the tires every time I start a trip also ck the oil for leaks and any wet spots under camper, also don't run tires over 5 years old they usually take out $1200 worth of fender well when they blow out Your post is worth it's weight in gold if your readers are smart, we all know they are because they are campers,"Just a little food for thought"
Bob, Jan & Lizzy(long hair doxie] 2000 Adventurer
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HappyCamper1954

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Quote: BADEYE:::: AFTER READING ABOUT THE 1ST 10 PAGES OF YOUR POST I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT:: If I stay away from DP's GM's And Workhorse chasis and get a v-10 and not drive it in the rain I can get rid of my break-down Insurance,I check all the tires every time I start a trip also ck the oil for leaks and any wet spots under camper, also don't run tires over 5 years old they usually take out $1200 worth of fender well when they blow out Your post is worth it's weight in gold if your readers are smart, we all know they are because they are campers,"Just a little food for thought"
Badeye... LOL..... sometimes it's a "wing and a prayer", "seat of the pants" and/or "lady luck"... I love it.... life in a MH is plain and simple.... a different world..... Rick
2000 Coachmen Santara F-53 V10 - Rick, Marie and Junior - The Wonder Dog (retired)
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